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Lightenup replied to the topic God Given Revelation? The Nature of Creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago
William I am glad to check you on this revelation and you are being very patient with my inquiries…thank you for that
You had a revelation several years ago that you told me about. How is this revelation different?Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 4 months ago
Pierre,Wanting to 'get it' is natural but getting something that is supernatural isn't natural. In other words, if we clearly understand something supernatural we have to have supernatural enlightenment. We can't figure this out by determination and earthly wisdom. It is something that needs to be shown us by the Holy Spirit. We do need to seek it…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Dec 25, Christmas, pagan origin? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago
Hi Gene,I know that Jesus was approximately six months younger than John. Follow the timeline of what I am saying:Sept/Oct. Zacharias performed temple worship for the second time that year and John the Baptist was conceived.March 25th Mary receives the visitation from Gabriel and Elisabeth is about 6 months along in her pregnancy.Mary visits…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Dec 25, Christmas, pagan origin? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago
Here is a link that has a lot of info regarding how the Christmas date does NOT have pagan origins:http://www.johnsanidopoulos.com/2009….an.html
Lightenup replied to the topic God Given Revelation? The Nature of Creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago
William,What prevents you from seeing this manifestation as the offspring of God the Father before the ages? When scripture says “Let US make man in OUR image” this implies that both who are speaking have an image. Does the manifestation have its own manifestation (image) before the ages?
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 4 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 29 2012,18:43)While Acts 17 is still fresh in our minds, I would like to make one more point about it:Acts 17:24“The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands.Who does Jesus say the “Lord of heaven and earth” is?Matthew 11:25At that time Jesus s…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Dec 25, Christmas, pagan origin? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago
David,you said:Quote Lu, I'm thinking you believe that date that was chosen (dec 25) wasn't chosen to cover over what was already a pagan holiday, but was chosen for other reasons, and subsequently, pagans adopted the same day perhaps.If this is so, please explain.Yes David, I believe the date was chosen for other reasons and I have already been…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Dec 25, Christmas, pagan origin? in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago
I found this bit of info on shepherding near Bethlehem in December:Shepherd with FlockThe area to the east of the city is traditionally believed to be the area of the fields of the shepherds “keeping watch o'er their flocks by night.” Several churches have been built to commemorate this event. Even today local shepherds can be seen tending…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic God Given Revelation? The Nature of Creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago
William,I am thinking about before Mary, before the creation of man, did the Father have a conversation with the manifestation of Himself then? Ya know…”Let US make man in OUR image…”
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 4 months ago
Great Nick, so you admit that Jesus is your Lord and Savior.Nick whose blood sanctifies you?
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2012,22:10)Hi, At his anointing Jesus became the LORD Jesus1 Corinthians 5:4In the name of our Lord Jesus, when you are assembled, and I with you in spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus,1 Corinthians 12:3Therefore I make known to you that no one speaking by the Spirit of God says, “Jesus is accursed”; and no one…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 4 months ago
Nick,Can you say that Jesus is your Lord and Savior? Yes or no
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 4 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2012,21:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2012,19:12)Mike,You can't seem to make a distinction between Jesus, according to the flesh, and Jesus who existed before the flesh.And was Jesus before the flesh in a higher or lower position than the exalted Jesus of today?In other words, has Jesus stepped DOWN a bunch of notches…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2012,21:21)Hi Kathi,Why would a branch worship the vine? The finger serves the Head with which is joined. We do not worship that which we are part of but his God.Is Jesus not your Lord and Savior, Nick?
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 4 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2012,21:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Mar. 28 2012,19:45)Mike,you said:Quote 1Cor 8:6 says no such thing, Kathi.What do you think 1 Cor 8:6 says if it is not giving the Father and the Son both credit for creation. Show me some early church fathers that agree with you. Otherwise your claim is unsubstantiated. I can show you that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 4 months ago
Quote (Nick Hassan @ Mar. 28 2012,20:47)Hi Kathi, For the Son read Christ read Spirit. All creation is by the Spirit.The Lord IS the SpiritNick,Do you believe Jesus is the Lord? Do you worship Jesus as your Lord and Savior?
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 4 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Mar. 28 2012,20:20)1Cor 8:6 says no such thing, Kathi.But, if you can't come up with anything except for your unsubstantiated beliefs to rebut Acts 17, then I'll give jammin a chance before posting the next scripture.Mike,you said:Quote 1Cor 8:6 says no such thing, Kathi.What do you think 1 Cor 8:6 says if it is not giving the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 4 months ago
I agree Nick, in this situation Mike cannot distinguish between the two but just focuses on Jesus according to the flesh.
Lightenup replied to the topic God Given Revelation? The Nature of Creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 14 years, 4 months ago
Quote (seekingtruth @ Mar. 27 2012,21:51)Kathi,Sorry, foundation may not of been the best choice of words to describe it, what I was referring to was the laws of physics, those that govern our reality (laws of gravitation, Laws of motion, Thermodynamic laws, etc.) these would need to be in place before matter was created.Thanks – WmHi William,Ok,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Was Jesus Created? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 14 years, 4 months ago
Mike,What I said above goes for Acts 17 also. Jesus according to the flesh is distinguished from Jesus who preceded the flesh in some passages like Acts 14 and Acts 17.
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