Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 29 2012,17:14)Quote (Lightenup @ May 29 2012,11:54)BD,There is one Lord and that is Jesus. Do you think that means that the Father is not our Lord also?But there is not literally one Lord, is there?  In fact, Paul begins his statement by saying there are many gods and many lords, both in heaven and on earth.In 1 Cor 8,…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2012,13:40)Quote (Lightenup @ May 28 2012,12:32)Mike,Our ONE God Almighty is both God of gods and Lord of lords.I agree.And it seems we both agree that we have but ONE God Almighty.  Next question:Does our ONE God Almighty have a Son named Jesus?  YES or NO?Our One God Almighty is both a Father and a Son and the Son is n…[Read more]

BD,For Him to say that He was the Son of God, literally, then He would be saying that He is also God. You said that yourself:Quote If any of you believe that Jesus is the literal son of God then you will have to agree that Jesus is GOD because each kind according to its kind is the rule of Procreation and if this is the case then you should all be…[Read more]

Hi William,It seems to me that the manifestation of the Father is what the Father calls His only Begotten Son…the image, the word of God. The difference that you and I have is that I believe that this Son was always existing in the Father and ready to be begotten from the Father before creation. From what I can tell, you seem to say that it was…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ May 28 2012,13:46)I didn't agree to that, Kathi.    I agreed that God Most High is the God of gods and the Lord of lords.  For example, Jesus is a god and a lord, but Jehovah is HIS God and HIS Lord.Subsequently, Jesus is also the Lord of other lords.  Even more subsequently, there exist even more lords who are the lord of eve…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ May 29 2012,01:21)There is ONLY ONE TRUE GOD according to HIS Christ Jesus, that means that even Jesus is not a TRUE GOD. There can be ONLY ONEBD,There is one Lord and that is Jesus. Do you think that means that the Father is not our Lord also? I don't think so. Neither do I think that just because the Bible says that there is…[Read more]

It is the same thing, Mike.

That is good that we agree on this. Our one God Almighty IS a Father and a Son. Our one God is God of gods AND Lord of lords…a Father AND a Son.

Mike,Our ONE God Almighty is both God of gods and Lord of lords. “For the LORD your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.1 Cor 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ,…[Read more]

Mike,You want a short reply and to take it bit by bit, ok.you said:Quote I agree that Jesus is A son of God in a way that no others are.I believe that Jesus is the only son of God in a way that no others are too. He is the same kind of being that His Father is…like begats like. Angels are not the same kind of being. If an true angel did begat…[Read more]

Mike, what do you mean, “that's right” as if we are agreeing or something…what's right? You say that you do not have a definition of 'dual nature' then how can you say Jesus is not dual natured? If I say that I do not know what it means to be, say, 'zorbified' how can I say someone is not 'zorbified?' Typically Christians claim that He is both…[Read more]

Ok, Mike, here is your last two posts on that thread:Quote Quote (Lightenup @ May 25 2012,17:15)Mike,You say that Jesus was not dual natured. Can you please give me your definition of 'dual natured.'Thanks!In other words, “Priest of God Almighty” is not one nature of Jesus while “God Almighty” is another.He WAS a spirit being like the other…[Read more]

BD,Here is your last post to me from the other thread:Quote Quote (Lightenup @ May 26 2012,12:17)Hi BD, (Mike let BD respond to this please)you said:Quote This is metaphorical not literal if a person was born God they cannot die because God cannot die.Actually an offspring is already the kind he or she is before being born, so the ONLY BEGOTTEN…[Read more]

Hi William,Your thread has taking a rabbit trail away from your revelation, sorry. Bd, Mike and I need to find a better place to have our 'Who is Jesus' discussion (and you, William, if interested) so that you can just only discuss your revelation in this thread. I have moved it to the 'debate' thread in the unbeliever's section. Hopefully I will…[Read more]

Hi BD, (Mike let BD respond to this please)you said:Quote This is metaphorical not literal if a person was born God they cannot die because God cannot die.Actually an offspring is already the kind he or she is before being born, so the ONLY BEGOTTEN GOD (John 1:18) was born God because He already was God 'kind' before He was born.God cannot die…[Read more]

Charles,Jesus was begotten spiritually before the ages and had existed before He was begotten within the Father. In Mary He was begotten carnally.

BD (Mike, let BD respond to this please)Quote Being a spirit before hand doesn't mean that spirit was an equivalent of GodBeing an only begotten literal Son of God is what made Him an equivalent of God.This is your quote:Quote If any of you believe that Jesus is the literal son of God then you will have to agree that Jesus is GOD because each kind…[Read more]

Mike,You say that Jesus was not dual natured. Can you please give me your definition of 'dual natured.'Thanks!