BD,you asked:Quote In these 3 examples why is there no mention of another God? A begotten God. When the words “None else besides Him” who is “him”? in the sentence? Remember the example that I gave you about the church being referred to with singular pronouns because the unity is considered a singular word? Same thing here. The 'him' is the unity.…[Read more]

Mike,you asked:Quote I'm asking if Jesus and Nebuchadnezzar can both be Kings of kings without being the same being.And if your answer is “YES”, then why can't Jehovah and Jesus both be Lords of lords without being the same being?Yes, they can both be King of kings without being the same being. I don't think that anyone would understand them as…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2012,22:08)So when you talk about God to kathi she has to think to herself “Which God are they talking about?”Yes, like in the Heb 1:8-9 passage that I just posted above. That is why one is often designated as God and one as Lord to help in distinguishing that they are two different divine persons, even tho they both…[Read more]

BD,You have much better understanding of my understanding than Mike does, but I do not think that the Father would call Jesus His God. in Hebrews, the Father calls Jesus “God” but Himself “your God” when talking to His Son.Heb 1:8But unto the Son he says, Your throne, O God (this is the Son), is forever and ever: a scepter of righteousness is the…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ July 09 2012,21:18)Quote (Lightenup @ July 10 2012,18:53)I'm in God's truth, Pierre. There are plenty of scriptures that show Jesus is Lord as in YHVH. My desire is to line up with God's truth.Kathifor me please tell us what you do believe in like what and who  is Christ who his God his father who are the 144k and please back…[Read more]

Mike,Nobody believes that Jesus is the person that He is the Son of except Modalists, from what I can tell.

Hi AndrewAD,I call myself a Christian. I don't care much for extra-Biblical labels. The labels may help somewhat to understand one's Christology but when the rubber meets the road, not all trinitarians believe the same, nor arians, nor unitarians, etc. From what I can tell, you do not understand trinitarians belief in the same way that I…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 09 2012,19:21)Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,22:00)Mike,How about not adjusting my statement. Just deal with it.So then shall we just ignore all the scriptures that say “Son OF God”?  Or shall we change them all to say “Son IN God” so they fit into your doctrine better?How about you learn what scriptures mean when it…[Read more]

I'm in God's truth, Pierre. There are plenty of scriptures that show Jesus is Lord as in YHVH. My desire is to line up with God's truth.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 09 2012,19:31)Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,22:03)Mike,Can you please admit that you were in error in what you said here now that I have shown you that He is 'in' the Father as well as 'of' the Father?How does quoting your words verbatim constitute an “error” on my part?   Nor did I ever doubt that Jesus is in the…[Read more]

An old cartoon to make you think about the current times.

BD,Most likely Lord of lords actually means something and not a casual metaphor. 1 Corinthians tells us that there are many gods and many lords. Have you studied history, BD? Are you aware of all the many gods that are worshiped, temples built for, idols built to represent? Jehovah is of course the one true God and all else that are being…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,23:10)Pierre,Do you ask for the purpose to seek understanding or just to attempt to destroy and belittle?Pierre,Is your hesitancy to answer this indicating that you really do just want to have another attempt to destroy and belittle? If so, I will answer those who ask with a spirit of understanding.You do not need…[Read more]

Pierre,Do you ask for the purpose to seek understanding or just to attempt to destroy and belittle?

Good posts William Welcome AndrewAD!

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 08 2012,14:05)Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,12:32)Mike,Do you remember me changing the word to 'in' instead of 'of' because I thought that would help you understand better? You may have not seen that because you have not acknowledged it.I not only saw it, but responded to it (1st post on page 19).  My response was…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 08 2012,15:51)Okay Kathi,So let's adjust your statement:  Jesus is a member of the unity that He is a son of and a son in.If you include the “OF” part, which you must because it is scriptural, then you're STILL saying Jesus is his own son – or at the very least, part of his own father.Or would you prefer to eliminate the…[Read more]

Mike,for you to say this shows us that you do not 'get it' still. Maybe you should reread this thread carefully.Quote But for you to say that Jesus being Lord over other lords makes him the same being as his God, who is also a Lord over other lords (including our Lord Jesus), makes no more sense than me saying that Nebuchanezzar being a King over…[Read more]

BTW, what scripture has God 'appointing' the Son as 'Lord,' also, what scripture has God 'appointing' the Son as 'the Lord of lords?' And, what scripture has God 'appointing' the Son as god/God?You keep saying that He was appointed as Lord but I don't see it in scripture. Is this a manmade doctrine of…

You seem to like to waste your time Mr. 14917 posts. How much time do you spend on HN per week, Mike?