Pierre,I am not calling Christ the 'God of gods,' I am calling the Father the 'God of gods.' I am calling Christ the 'Lord of lords.' Jehovah is both…two persons…Father (God of gods) and Son (Lord of lords).BTW, Did you ever wonder why the Son felt like He needed to subject Himself? Hasn't He always been subject to the…

But Mike,You are the one that has been taking it literally and saying that we only have one God and it is not Jesus.What I'm saying is that there is a scriptural context where we have one Lord and He is not the Father. I believe that particular scripture clarifies Deut 10:17 where we are told that Jehovah is the God of gods and the Lord of lords.…[Read more]

Pierre,So, the God of gods has more authority than the Lord of lords…Jehovah is still both of them.You may have given your child everything and you are in authority over your child…that is why you are the father and they are not. Still you and your child are part of a unity.

Quote (bodhitharta @ July 09 2012,22:08)So when you talk about God to kathi she has to think to herself “Which God are they talking about?”So what, BD? When we talk to you about the Lord, you have to ask yourself “Which Lord are they talking about?” Is that not true?

BD,1 Cor 8:6 says the Father is our one God and not our one Lord.It just so happens that Jehovah is both our God of gods and Lord of lords…not JUST God of gods.

It is like I never said 'context is king.' Do you guys not understand this expression? What do you think that means?? You both need to review the thread. We have discussed this.Here is a question for you guys: Does 1 Cor 8:6 tell us that our one Lord is Jesus Christ or the Father?

Ha, William, those were funny! Here-this made me laugh:A SHORT HISTORY OF MEDICINE:”Doctor, I have an ear ache.”2000 BC – “Here, eat this root.”1000 BC – “That root is heathen, say this prayer.”1850 AD – “That prayer is superstition, drink this potion.”1940 AD – “That potion is snake oil, swallow this pill.”1985 AD – “That pill is ineffective,…[Read more]

Pierre, I'm not changing that. Obviously, Your conflict is with your lack of understanding, not with me. The Father and Son remain the Father and Son. What many people here don't understand is what they are together. 1 Cor 8:6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by…[Read more]

The point Pierre, is to show that Jehovah is not only the Father but also the Son! We are to worship Jehovah (both the Father AND the Son).

Pierre,A unity does not consist of all in the same position necessarily.A family does not consist of only fathers.1 married couple = 1 man + 1 womanDo you see how that equation is true?They are both humans but definitely in different positions.Likewise:1 Jehovah unity = 1 Father Jehovah + 1 Son Jehovah

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 10 2012,17:15)Quote (Lightenup @ July 09 2012,21:59)Mike,you asked:Quote I'm asking if Jesus and Nebuchadnezzar can both be Kings of kings without being the same being.And if your answer is “YES”, then why can't Jehovah and Jesus both be Lords of lords without being the same being?Yes, they can both be King of kings…[Read more]

Dear BD,you said:Quote Psalms 45 was written hundreds of years before Christ was sent to us, so who do you think the writer was referring to at thetime it was written? It was the King which most likely was David.Really?? Have you not ever heard of a Messianic prophecy before? Of course they were written way before Jesus was born in the flesh, no…[Read more]

Good Pierre,Now just plug all of that info into one equation like this:Jehovah = our one God (the God of gods)-the Father + our one Lord (the Lord of lords)-Jesus ChristDo you get this so far?

Ok Pierre,The NT identifies who the God is and who the Lord is here:1 Cor 8:6yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him.The one God is the Father and the one Lord is Jesus Christ.Are you still with me?

BD,Psalms 45 is about Jesus, the Messiah and the church, His bride.Read this to help you see:http://gill.biblecommenter.com/psalms/45.htm

BD,The verse in Acts 2 does not say that God made Him both God and Christ, it says Lord and Christ. If God begat the only begotten God before creation and gave Him the task of creation together with Himself, that right there would make Him Lord over creation, both of them would be Lord over creation because they together are the creator of…[Read more]

Pierre,Jehovah = the God of gods + the Lord of lordsAre you with me so far?Deut 10:17 “For Jehovah your God is the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God who does not show partiality nor take a bribe.

Hi AndrewAD,I understand where you are coming from. I have read the writings of the early church fathers and there was a time that the Holy Spirit was not distinguished as a person. I have thought of their teachings as the early trinity…the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit…two persons and the Spirit that proceeds from them.I think of Him…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 09 2012,21:01)Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,21:32)BTW, what scripture has God 'appointing' the Son as 'Lord'…………You keep saying that He was appointed as Lord but I don't see it in scripture. Is this a manmade doctrine of yours?Acts 2:36“Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom y…[Read more]

BD,you asked:Quote Who is the “Lord God” is the “Lord God” Jesus and The FatherIt depends on the context but sometimes context is unclear. It could be the Father, the Son or both.