Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 09 2012,19:21)Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,22:00)Mike,How about not adjusting my statement. Just deal with it.So then shall we just ignore all the scriptures that say “Son OF God”?  Or shall we change them all to say “Son IN God” so they fit into your doctrine better?How about you learn what scriptures mean when it…[Read more]

I'm in God's truth, Pierre. There are plenty of scriptures that show Jesus is Lord as in YHVH. My desire is to line up with God's truth.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 09 2012,19:31)Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,22:03)Mike,Can you please admit that you were in error in what you said here now that I have shown you that He is 'in' the Father as well as 'of' the Father?How does quoting your words verbatim constitute an “error” on my part?   Nor did I ever doubt that Jesus is in the…[Read more]

An old cartoon to make you think about the current times.

BD,Most likely Lord of lords actually means something and not a casual metaphor. 1 Corinthians tells us that there are many gods and many lords. Have you studied history, BD? Are you aware of all the many gods that are worshiped, temples built for, idols built to represent? Jehovah is of course the one true God and all else that are being…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,23:10)Pierre,Do you ask for the purpose to seek understanding or just to attempt to destroy and belittle?Pierre,Is your hesitancy to answer this indicating that you really do just want to have another attempt to destroy and belittle? If so, I will answer those who ask with a spirit of understanding.You do not need…[Read more]

Pierre,Do you ask for the purpose to seek understanding or just to attempt to destroy and belittle?

Good posts William Welcome AndrewAD!

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 08 2012,14:05)Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,12:32)Mike,Do you remember me changing the word to 'in' instead of 'of' because I thought that would help you understand better? You may have not seen that because you have not acknowledged it.I not only saw it, but responded to it (1st post on page 19).  My response was…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 08 2012,15:51)Okay Kathi,So let's adjust your statement:  Jesus is a member of the unity that He is a son of and a son in.If you include the “OF” part, which you must because it is scriptural, then you're STILL saying Jesus is his own son – or at the very least, part of his own father.Or would you prefer to eliminate the…[Read more]

Mike,for you to say this shows us that you do not 'get it' still. Maybe you should reread this thread carefully.Quote But for you to say that Jesus being Lord over other lords makes him the same being as his God, who is also a Lord over other lords (including our Lord Jesus), makes no more sense than me saying that Nebuchanezzar being a King over…[Read more]

BTW, what scripture has God 'appointing' the Son as 'Lord,' also, what scripture has God 'appointing' the Son as 'the Lord of lords?' And, what scripture has God 'appointing' the Son as god/God?You keep saying that He was appointed as Lord but I don't see it in scripture. Is this a manmade doctrine of…

You seem to like to waste your time Mr. 14917 posts. How much time do you spend on HN per week, Mike?

Mike,You are certainly falling short of applying my logic. Jesus as the Lord of lords and king of kings in the NT pre-exists His flesh existence as a heavenly being. If Neb and Art didn't do that, then clearly the use of 'king of kings' is not anywhere near who Jesus is. But you know this, don't you or am I giving you too much credit?

Mike,Do you not know that the Father is IN Jesus and Jesus is IN the Father? Jesus is not only OF the Father but He is IN the Father. John 17

Here Mike,https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….;st=1608th post down.

Mike,Do you remember me changing the word to 'in' instead of 'of' because I thought that would help you understand better? You may have not seen that because you have not acknowledged it. Go back in that thread and look at my response.Jesus is a member of the unity that He is a son IN.Also, if you understood that like begets like, then you can…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 08 2012,08:14)Quote (Lightenup @ July 08 2012,20:16)Mike,You indicate that I believe in one person that is His own Son yet in the next sentence you indicate that I believe in two persons. I'm pretty sure that you know that I believe in two persons and one is from the other so why would you act like I was saying that one came from…[Read more]

Mike,I am sure that you need a break. You are wasting our time with those kinds of comments.

Mike,You indicate that I believe in one person that is His own Son yet in the next sentence you indicate that I believe in two persons. I'm pretty sure that you know that I believe in two persons and one is from the other so why would you act like I was saying that one came from himself? You probably need a break or something.You asked if I…[Read more]