t8,you said:Quote Kathi, you clearly teach that God is two.I teach that our God and Lord are two. The Lord is the only begotten God.

Quote (t8 @ July 31 2012,20:37)Please answer my 2 questions.As for your last question, there is one who is God and the other who is Lord.There are 2 being referred to. God and Lord.The Father is God and Jesus is Lord.One person/identity per title.Yes, t8, I agree that Paul is teaching that TWO BEINGS are for us as God and Lord and that the Father…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ July 31 2012,19:16)t8,you said:Quote It doesn't say one LORD Jehovah Yeshua.Yes it does…you are in denial my friend. See the Aramaic Bible of Plain English on the Bible.cc site here:http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/8-6.htmThere are several more examples of the Aramaic manuscripts clearly calling Jesus the “LORD Jehovah Yeshua.”…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ July 31 2012,20:08)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 01 2012,14:17)t8,Where does the Bible say that He is one being? A unity takes singular personal pronouns, there are several examples, the church is a 'she' for example.For us there is one God the Father.If you consider the Father is a being, then yes he is one being.If you prefer I will use…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 31 2012,20:08)Quote (Lightenup @ July 31 2012,01:42)……….you will understand how this four gospel thing came about without the epistles.Why can't you just tell us?Mike,I would just be repeating what the linked article already says. Why do you want me to spoon feed you? Just read the article, please! My time is…[Read more]

Quote (david @ July 31 2012,20:08)Is there any way to determine what the common people spoke back there at that time?  It almost seems odd to me that it's not easier to figure this out, or that somewhere, some ancient didn't say what they were written in.Hi David,Read what Josephus, a Jewish Historian of Jesus' day wrote:You can read his writings…[Read more]

Gene,You really should be concentrating your efforts on the Aramaic interlinear. Look at John 1 for example and see v. 18 calling Jesus the only begotten God. Read it here:http://aramaic-english.scripturetext.com/john/1.htmIt appears nearly blank. You have to click on the tab that says “interlinear” and then you may have to look in your download…[Read more]

Mike,Let me clarify my last post. The whole NT was written in Aramaic/Hebrew and can be used to prove that Jesus is YHWH the Messiah. It also can be used to prove that the Father is YHWH. It is not saying that they are both the same YHWH but there are two persons called YHWH as well as the unity they make.

t8you said:Quote e.g., For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son….t8: For the Father so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son….kathi: For the Father and Son so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son….Who is right in the example above.But Kathi wouldn't say that. I have said over and over that…[Read more]

t8,Where does the Bible say that He is one being? A unity takes singular personal pronouns, there are several examples, the church is a 'she' for example.

t8,you said:Quote It doesn't say one LORD Jehovah Yeshua.Yes it does…you are in denial my friend. See the Aramaic Bible of Plain English on the Bible.cc site here:http://bible.cc/1_corinthians/8-6.htmThere are several more examples of the Aramaic manuscripts clearly calling Jesus the “LORD Jehovah Yeshua.” Would you like to see them?

Quote (t8 @ July 31 2012,18:52)Quote (Lightenup @ July 30 2012,17:28)Why is it that you and your wife are a unity and not a binity or are you both a unity as well as a binity?We are separate persons who choose to be united in spirit and flesh. We are not one being with 2 persons.A Binity is a being made up of 2 persons just as a Trinity is being…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote I personally think the Aramaic NT is a TRANSLATION from the Greek, like the info I posted on the other thread attested to.  (Don't forget that in that info I posted, they said, “One thing is CERTAIN – the earliest Aramaic NT's didn't contain any of the epistles”.)  So at the most, you could try to use the four gospels to help y…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote We were discussing 1 Cor 8:6, Kathi. That's why I said what I said. And just like 1 Cor 8:6 ruins your “two YHWH” doctrine by calling Jesus ALONE our “one YHWHs”, this Luke passage seems to teach that both the Father AND the Messiah are “the LORD YHWH” – ruining your “one is 'God' and the other is 'Lord' ” claim.Hold on…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ July 30 2012,19:27)Quote (Lightenup @ July 29 2012,22:22)Mike,It is most likely, according to what Josephus said, that Paul spoke in Aramaic and wrote in Aramaic,Let's not take a letter from Josephus, where he said he preferred to speak Hebrew, and apply it to the entire NT, okay?Josephus said nothing about Paul speaking or…[Read more]

Mike,you ask:Quote Then wouldn't the unity of the two always be called “Lord God”? Obviously not.Quote Why is the unity so often called by just the name of the “God” part of the unity?God would be used in the general sense there.Quote Also, Jehovah put His name on the angel in Exodus, the Israelites, Jerusalem, etc. Isaiah 43:6-7Bring my sons…[Read more]

BD,you said:Quote So during the time he hadn't been given “the name” yet, what was his name and what was the Name of the one who gave him the Name.You are saying that YHWH was a being who gave the name YHWH to another being whom we also call Jesus. Doesn't this mean that Jesus was not always named YHWH?They are both always YHWH because they have…[Read more]

Mike,Go to this link http://aramaicnt.com/articles.htmThen read this article, it talks about the missing epistles, etc. and should bring more complete understanding to what is being said in the one you posted:”Does the Peshitta stem from the Old Syriac?”

Mike,Here is more info:http://aramaicnt.com/articles.htm

Also, Mike, not only are we discussing Paul's letters but the gospels. In Luke 2, Jesus is called YHWH. See here:Luke 2:8 8But there were some shepherds in the region lodging there and they kept the nightly watch over their flocks; 9And behold, the Angel of God came to them and the glory of THE LORD JEHOVAH shone upon them and they were greatly…[Read more]