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Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,12:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,17:15)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)Jesus is called a god in most Bibles, Kathi.Actually, He is called God in most Bibles, Mike. I do not see any that say 'a god' apart from the doctored NWT.What you see is that in every Greek ms, John 1:1 speaks of one who is called “THE god”, and one…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,11:48)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,16:55)I am not stopping my life's activities because you cannot accept it without a mountain of proof.What “mountain of proof”?
So far, you have posted the words from some dude whose name and credentials I don't even know – who says that “marya” equals “the Lord Jehovah”.I…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,11:30)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,17:03)Imagine if you will, that the sun always existed in its complete developed state, the rays would have always existed then also. Get it?Imagine now that it was said the sun existed in the beginning, and at some point before the ages, the sun begot its rays.Would you STILL…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
BD,Quote We don't need to imagine because the world was Dark in the beginning it didn't always have light and the sun was already created so when God said let there be light there was light, two different states. since you say Jesus was begotten that would mean he was not begotten at some point.I was making an analogy between the eternal Father…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
BD,In light of the Father being the only true God, Jesus is the only true Begotten God. There is no conflict there.So, with that understanding, yes, Jesus said that and no, He was not mistaken.
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
BD,It may seem like I am changing when I say that the Father is God and then I see that God is also a general term for the supreme authority. I also see Jesus as God but specifically the only begotten God. So, as I have said, over and over…it depends on the context. For instance, I know that 1 Cor 8:6 credits both the Father and the Son for…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 11 months ago
Mike,Thanks for the directions
The reason you only find part of the NT Interlinear is because that is as far as Paul Younan has gotten in his translating efforts. Here is a quote from him:”Indeed, this project is on-going and will take several years to complete. My purpose in creating an Interlinear version of the Peshitta New Testament is to:…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
Mike,Quote Jesus is called a god in most Bibles, Kathi.Actually, He is called God in most Bibles, Mike. I do not see any that say 'a god' apart from the doctored NWT.Quote BUT……………. since the scriptures were inspired by God Himself to be written by humans to teach humans, those teachings are written so that humans can understand them.So…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 04 2012,00:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,15:14)BD,Quote I have nothing but respect for your love of God but it is for that very reason I am discussing this issue with you it is truly out of love, respect and admiration.Thank you for the compliment
I love and respect you as well and that is why I am spending time…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 04 2012,12:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2012,12:41)Number 1…don't call me Jammin' JrThen don't post doctored translations like he does.
Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 03 2012,12:41)Number 2…Can there be any degree of proof for you that shows ANY translation as legit?Realize that not only is Jesus called YHWH in the Aramaic…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
Thanks Mike,Another plug for the unity of God…the Father did not make one thing in heaven and on earth apart from the Son

Lightenup replied to the topic Comics, cartoons, jokes and funny stories in the forum Chatroom 13 years, 11 months ago
A man was sitting on the edge of the bed, observing his wife, looking at herself in the mirror. Since her birthday was not far off he asked what she'd like to have for her Birthday.”I'd like to be six again”, she replied, still looking in the mirror.On the morning of her Birthday, he arose early, made her a nice big bowl of Lucky Charms, and then…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
Here, BD, a response to your Peshitta post:This article gives a great deal of evidence for an Aramaic written original NT.This resource is very interesting. It is in a PDF form and I can't copy and paste from it. You can find it by going to this google search link and clicking on the fourth option “Was the New Testament Really Written in Greek.” ht…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
BD,Quote I have nothing but respect for your love of God but it is for that very reason I am discussing this issue with you it is truly out of love, respect and admiration.Thank you for the compliment
I love and respect you as well and that is why I am spending time down here with you. Quote Now with your own explanation above that qualifies…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 11 months ago
This is a pretty good article about the matter:Yeshua as YHWH in the New TestamentThe Divine Name of YHWH is used almost 7,000 times in the Tanakh (Old Testament). So if the New Testament is a continuation of The Divine Revelation to man, we should expect it to appear in the Gospels/letters as well?We know that the original New Testament contained…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Delusions in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 11 months ago
Mike,I think that you are jumping to conclusions by saying that since the Peshitta was dated at 175 AD AT THE LATEST so therefore, since the NT is believed to be completed around 100 AD, it was a translation. That would just be a guess. There is much to study here…nothing concrete in dates. What makes sense to me is that the originals were…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 11 months ago
Mike,I don't know Aramaic or Hebrew or how to read the dictionary that you refer to. I can't even figure out how to search a word there. What I do know is that there are these Bibles that are translated by people who claim that MarYah is the Aramaic word that replaces the name YHWH in the OT and NT. History also tells us that Aramaic became the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 11 months ago
Mike,On that site, LORD (all caps), appears where YHWH would go.
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
Mike,you ask:Quote So, jammin Jr., before you continue posting these doctored translations, you ought to first show proof that they are legit, don't you think?Number 1…don't call me Jammin' Jr. Number 2…Can there be any degree of proof for you that shows ANY translation as legit? What does legit mean in your opinion? What kind of evidence…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 11 months ago
BD and Mike,Of course we are talking theory here because we aren't given specifics in scripture. As I have said, early on in this discussion, your mother had 1/2 of the DNA that has always belonged to you within the particular ovum that became you, in her ovary, right from birth. Many years later, this ovum is implanted with the other 1/2 of your…[Read more]
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