Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 06 2012,19:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2012,15:17)Mike,What you see in John 1:18 is THE only begotten God. Not 'a' begotten God.Yes, in SOME mss, we see “the only begotten god”.  (In others, we see “the only begotten son”.)But what do you see in 2 Corintians 4:4?  Do you see “THE god of this world”?  Shall we equate Sa…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 06 2012,19:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2012,13:14)Mike,I would say that the rays came from within the sun and were always within the sun till the sun began to shine forth.Can you give me an example from nature where the thing begotten was “ALWAYS” within the thing that begot it?Can you give an example where the one who…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 06 2012,18:56)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2012,15:06)Gee, off the top of my head,I have shown you this:Quote Here is what page 54 and 55 from the intro of the Hebraic Roots Version says about the placement of the name YHWH and how it is objective and not subjective:The Sacred NameIn the past, sacred name versions of the New…[Read more]

BD,Perhaps the role of parents in the family would help you understand what I am saying. The husband is the head of the wife, yet they are considered one flesh…right?The husband and wife are equally human…right?The husband and wife are together the supreme human authority of their children…they are to present a united front to their…[Read more]

Hi William, I just felt like I walked into the wrong locker room, that's all. I am glad you are contributing and that you got a good laugh from it.

t8,No problem, I have enough to keep me busy here! Take your time…work and family come first.

Mike,This actually seems the most explanative about the MarYah name in the Aramaic. You should read this one.http://ebookbrowse.com/underst….5667985On page 9, the author says:”In 7,000 Aramaic Tanakh references there is not one instance of MarYah (in its singularform) applying to anyone other than YHWH! Furthermore, the Peshitta New…[Read more]

Mike,Since you do not accept any translation and we don't agree on which language the original NT was written it, it is hard to see an end to this. I do think that finding out if the Eastern Peshitta is the original is a worthwhile pursuit. I also think that comparing it to the other translations are a good idea and then if there is a notable…[Read more]

Mike,More info:Jesus is MarYahThis word is ‘MARYAH’. MarYah literally means Mar (Lord) Yah (name of God in the singular). YHWH,arguably Yahweh, is one of the names of God. 0yrm (MarYah) is a compound name made from rm(“Lord”) and 0y (“Yah”, the accepted Aramaic shortened form of YHWH). YHWH is plural, while Yah issingular. Different groups of Jud…[Read more]

Oh my goodness, the comics thread is moving south…quick someone do something

Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 06 2012,12:59)Mike,Quote Until then, don't bother using the Aramaic Bible in English in your posts to me, because it will prove nothing more than when jammin uses his doctored translations that don't accurately represent what was taught in the original languages.Mike do you accept ANY Bible translation? I can't recall any…[Read more]

BD,Wherever did you get the idea that I think Jesus is the God 'of' the Father? He is from the Father, not over the Father!Also as there is one true God, there is also one true begotten God. Both are united as one supreme authority.

Mike,Younan capitalizes all the letters as 'LORD.' I don't know why you think differently. The others write it the same as each other…'Lord' even when they referred to the Angel of the Lord, it was written the same.From what I can tell, when the word translated is written in the singular emphatic form it refers to YHWH but refers to lords when…[Read more]

Mike,Quote Until then, don't bother using the Aramaic Bible in English in your posts to me, because it will prove nothing more than when jammin uses his doctored translations that don't accurately represent what was taught in the original languages.Mike do you accept ANY Bible translation? I can't recall any that you haven't had trouble with. What…[Read more]

Mike,you said:Quote (Btw, the fact that some translator caps the word “lord” when in reference to Jehovah and to Jesus isn't “proof” of any sort.)When the word 'lord' is in all caps in this verse, Deut 10:17, do you believe that it is showing that it refers to YHWH by capping all the letters? Is that the way that the NIV translators let you know…[Read more]

Mike,He is using the Peshitta which he says was completed during the apostolic times.The Aramaic in which the Bible called “Assakhta Peshitta” is written, known as the Peshitta Text, is in the dialect of northwest Mesopotamia as it evolved and was highly perfected in Orhai, once a city-kingdom, later called Edessa by the Greeks, and now called…[Read more]

BD,”Targum fragments found in the Dead Sea Scrolls indicate that use of written targumim can be dated to pre-Christian times, and eventually two of these written Targumim, Targum Onqelos on the Pentateuch and Targum Jonathan on the Prophets gained official status, and were specifically designated for use in synagogue services.”The 'Word of God' as…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2012,14:11)Also Kathi Jesus declares that The Father is The Only “true” God wouldn't that mean God of any type? Here is the Problem Jesus claims that the God he worships he worships along with the other Jews:John 4:22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.So clearly you can…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 05 2012,13:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 05 2012,15:28)BD,In light of the Father being the only true God, Jesus is the only true Begotten God. There is no conflict there.So, with that understanding, yes, Jesus said that and no, He was not mistaken.Swhen Jesus says that The Father is greater than he is do you understand that…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 05 2012,12:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 04 2012,17:15)Oh, ok, then explain how God created the sun to the class, Teacher Mike.I can't explain the “how” of it, Kathi, because we aren't told the “how” of it.But I can explain that since God CREATED the sun, it means God existed BEFORE the sun.  Surely you can accept this fact…[Read more]