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Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 10 months ago
Mike,Thanks for reading it. What did you think?So you believe in and serve two mighty theos's then, correct?
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 10 months ago
BD,you said:Quote There is ONLY ONE GOD Jesus is not God and is only called the only begotten as a metaphor or analogy the simple proof is theBible says that Isaacx was theonly begotten of Abraham and it is completely untrue in accuracy but as an analogy or metaphor can be used.The Bible calls others the firstborn of God is the Bible true in that…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 10 months ago
Mike,Did you not look at that link?Do you believe in one begotten God, the Son as well as one God, the Father?
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 10 months ago
Mike,This is so important for you to consider because it totally shows the divinity and deity of Christ if it is true and you need to believe what is true otherwise you will be denying a very important truth that may have tremendous consequences to you as you continue in false teaching. So, because of the level of importance, contact Paul and be…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 10 months ago
Mike,I suggest that you become a member of the forums at Peshitta.org and send Paul Younan a PM with your questions. He is a native speaker of Aramaic and is a deacon at a church in Chicago that uses the Peshitta. He is also the one who is writing the interlinear that you have looked at. He would be a much better person for you to ask your…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 10 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2012,19:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2012,13:37)So t8, you have not proven to me that you are open minded in any wayOK, let's have a look at why I am close minded.I believe the following undoubtedly and I am closed minded right? Because it is this that you have the problem with and I can either believe what you are telling me…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 10 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2012,17:03)You mean where he says this:The Holy Name of God is YHWH in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, English and Swahili. There is only one Name of God, and the language is Hebrew. There is no other name in any other language. Only titles. Maryah is a title, not a name. It's not meant to replace the personal Name of YHWH.Or…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 10 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2012,19:03)LU, when YHWH appears it is also often through an angel. And we are not expected to call the angel, 'YHWH'.What did you expect. That YHWH can actually meet someone in bodily form. That he can fit into a finite body. Ha ha, no chance. Not even the heavens can contain him. Rather he is inside his messengers and is not…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 10 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2012,19:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2012,13:37)So t8, you have not proven to me that you are open minded in any wayOK, let's have a look at why I am close minded.I believe the following undoubtedly and I am closed minded right? Because it is this that you have the problem with and I can either believe what you are telling me…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 10 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2012,19:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2012,13:37)I understand that you feel that you have to belittle people because that makes you feel justified; it is telling.If I belittle a lie, then those that believe the lie may well feel belittled.I attack the lie not the person. If you happen to be part of the lie, then that is not my…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 10 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 24 2012,14:51)Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 24 2012,13:42)………….but if Jesus is God then God has been seen and talked to.Kathi listed three different scriptures that make it very clear that Jesus is not “God”, because Jesus HAS been seen by thousands of human beings – God hasn't.Mike,So, if you can get that Jesus is the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 10 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 24 2012,14:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 24 2012,14:58)BD,Naturally the Only Begotten God would be from God the Father and would have seen the Father. Put it all together, BD. There is one God YHWH the Father, and one Lord YHWH Yahshua the Messiah who is the Only Begotten God. One is from the other and therefore one is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 10 months ago
Mike, Quote It seems that if the Jews worshipped the word of Jehovah, then Jesus was saying that he too worshiped that word. So if that word was always him, he would be saying he worshiped himself. But if that word was sometimes OTHER messengers of God, Jesus would have been saying that he worshipped angels.You will have to show me where the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 10 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 24 2012,14:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 24 2012,14:58)BD,Naturally the Only Begotten God would be from God the Father and would have seen the Father. Put it all together, BD. There is one God YHWH the Father, and one Lord YHWH Yahshua the Messiah who is the Only Begotten God. One is from the other and therefore one is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 10 months ago
Mike,It is important to know how the Jews understood their scriptures and if they worshiped what they called 'the Word of the Lord.' Jesus said that the Jews worship what they know.John 4:22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews.
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 10 months ago
BD,Naturally the Only Begotten God would be from God the Father and would have seen the Father. Put it all together, BD. There is one God YHWH the Father, and one Lord YHWH Yahshua the Messiah who is the Only Begotten God. One is from the other and therefore one is Father and one is Son!You would do well to do a study about the memra of YHWH from…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 10 months ago
Mike,In regards to the teaching that the Memra of YHWH is the manifested YHWH as distinct from the unapproachable YHWH, I have found valuable lists of scriptures from this site:http://www.ccel.org/ccel….ghlightThis info contains lists pertaining to where the Aramaic word 'memra' was used in three targums (the Aramaic paraphrase of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 10 months ago
The Memra is God, yet is a separate personality from the Father and Holy Spirit:Quote The Jerusalem TargumExodus 3 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.Rabbi Tzvi Nassi cites the Jerusalem Targum to Shemot (Exodus) 3:14:And the Word of the Lord said unto…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 10 months ago
BD,Let me clarify for you since you seem to be stuck in your diatribe…Jesus is YHWH the SonJesus is YHWH the Son of YHWH the Father.Jesus is YHWH the Son who is 'the sent one' (malach) of YHWH the Father.Jesus is YHWH the Son who is the memra/logos (Word) of YHWH the Father.Jesus is YHWH the Son who is the arm of YHWH the Father.Jesus is YHWH the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 10 months ago
Mike,Quote You can't have “YHWH the Son” being the one who stayed behind with Abraham, and also have “YHWH the Son” being one of the OTHER two who went on to Sodom.Where did I say that He was one of the other two? YHWH was talking face to face with Abraham, the other two 'men' who were angels went on ahead to Sodom. YHWH left Abraham then went to…[Read more]
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