Mike,Quote In all cases of such relationships, the father exists BEFORE the son does.In all such cases the father also had a beginning and did not exist at one time. Dream on Mike, you can't make an apple to apple analogy. It doesn't hold up, does it.

Rev 3:5Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)“He who overcomes in this way is garbed with a white garment, and I shall not blot out his name from The Book of Life, and I shall confess his name before my Father and before his Angels.”Young's Literal TranslationHe who is overcoming — this one — shall be arrayed in white garments, and I will not…[Read more]

Rev 14:10Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)Shall also drink from the wine of the passion of THE LORD JEHOVAH, which is mixed without dilution in the cup of his rage, and he will be tormented by fire and brimstone before the holy Angels and before the Lamb.” Young's Literal Translationhe also shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, that ha…[Read more]

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)Rev 7:10And they shouted with a great voice, and they were saying, “Salvation to our God, and to him Who sits upon the throne, and unto the Lamb!” 11And all of the Angels were standing around the throne and The Elders and The Four Beasts, and they fell before the throne on their faces,New International Vers…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 27 2012,21:16)That would add up to TWO Almighty Gods, Kathi.  There is but ONE Almighty God.  Jesus is that One's Son.Mike,You claim to believe in and serve one almighty theos and one mighty theos, right? That would be two theos that you believe in, Mike.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 27 2012,21:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 26 2012,14:07)Mike, Quote It seems that if the Jews worshipped the word of Jehovah, then Jesus was saying that he too worshiped that word.  So if that word was always him, he would be saying he worshiped himself.  But if that word was sometimes OTHER messengers of God, Jesus would h…[Read more]

Mike,Thanks for reading it. What did you think?So you believe in and serve two mighty theos's then, correct?

BD,you said:Quote There is ONLY ONE GOD Jesus is not God and is only called the only begotten as a metaphor or analogy the simple proof is theBible says that Isaacx was theonly begotten of Abraham and it is completely untrue in accuracy but as an analogy or metaphor can be used.The Bible calls others the firstborn of God is the Bible true in that…[Read more]

Mike,Did you not look at that link?Do you believe in one begotten God, the Son as well as one God, the Father?

Mike,This is so important for you to consider because it totally shows the divinity and deity of Christ if it is true and you need to believe what is true otherwise you will be denying a very important truth that may have tremendous consequences to you as you continue in false teaching. So, because of the level of importance, contact Paul and be…[Read more]

Mike,I suggest that you become a member of the forums at Peshitta.org and send Paul Younan a PM with your questions. He is a native speaker of Aramaic and is a deacon at a church in Chicago that uses the Peshitta. He is also the one who is writing the interlinear that you have looked at. He would be a much better person for you to ask your…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2012,19:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2012,13:37)So t8, you have not proven to me that you are open minded in any wayOK, let's have a look at why I am close minded.I believe the following undoubtedly and I am closed minded right? Because it is this that you have the problem with and I can either believe what you are telling me…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 20 2012,17:03)You mean where he says this:The Holy Name of God is YHWH in Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, English and Swahili. There is only one Name of God, and the language is Hebrew. There is no other name in any other language. Only titles. Maryah is a title, not a name. It's not meant to replace the personal Name of YHWH.Or…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2012,19:03)LU, when YHWH appears it is also often through an angel. And we are not expected to call the angel, 'YHWH'.What did you expect. That YHWH can actually meet someone in bodily form. That he can fit into a finite body. Ha ha, no chance. Not even the heavens can contain him. Rather he is inside his messengers and is not…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2012,19:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2012,13:37)So t8, you have not proven to me that you are open minded in any wayOK, let's have a look at why I am close minded.I believe the following undoubtedly and I am closed minded right? Because it is this that you have the problem with and I can either believe what you are telling me…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 26 2012,19:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 16 2012,13:37)I understand that you feel that you have to belittle people because that makes you feel justified; it is telling.If I belittle a lie, then those that believe the lie may well feel belittled.I attack the lie not the person. If you happen to be part of the lie, then that is not my…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Aug. 24 2012,14:51)Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 24 2012,13:42)………….but if Jesus is God then God has been seen and talked to.Kathi listed three different scriptures that make it very clear that Jesus is not “God”, because Jesus HAS been seen by thousands of human beings – God hasn't.Mike,So, if you can get that Jesus is the…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 24 2012,14:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 24 2012,14:58)BD,Naturally the Only Begotten God would be from God the Father and would have seen the Father. Put it all together, BD. There is one God YHWH the Father, and one Lord YHWH Yahshua the Messiah who is the Only Begotten God. One is from the other and therefore one is…[Read more]

Mike, Quote It seems that if the Jews worshipped the word of Jehovah, then Jesus was saying that he too worshiped that word. So if that word was always him, he would be saying he worshiped himself. But if that word was sometimes OTHER messengers of God, Jesus would have been saying that he worshipped angels.You will have to show me where the…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Aug. 24 2012,14:42)Quote (Lightenup @ Aug. 24 2012,14:58)BD,Naturally the Only Begotten God would be from God the Father and would have seen the Father. Put it all together, BD. There is one God YHWH the Father, and one Lord YHWH Yahshua the Messiah who is the Only Begotten God. One is from the other and therefore one is…[Read more]