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Lightenup replied to the topic The Word of YHWH per the Targums in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 9 months ago
The following passage/passages are from the NASB and the Targum Onkeloswith the Targums in English found herehttp://targum.info/targumic-texts/pentateuchal-targumim/I have italicized the Targum passage and bolded “the Word of the LORD…” for your convenience.Gen 6:6-76The LORD was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Word of YHWH per the Targums in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 9 months ago
The following passage/passages are from the NASB and the Targum Onkeloswith the Targums in English found herehttp://targum.info/targumic-texts/pentateuchal-targumim/I have italicized the Targum passage and bolded “the Word of the LORD…” for your convenience.Gen 3:1010He said, “I heard the sound of You in the garden, and I was afraid because I w…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Word of YHWH per the Targums in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 9 months ago
The following passage/passages are from the NASB and the Targum Onkeloswith the Targums in English found herehttp://targum.info/targumic-texts/pentateuchal-targumim/I have italicized the Targum passage and bolded “the Word of the LORD…” for your convenience.Gen 3:88They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (seekingtruth @ Sep. 23 2012,03:49)As God works in our life He reveals truth to us at the appropriate time. Early in my relationship with God He showed me that many, if not most, Christians set their doctrine on an extreme of a pendulums swing, but truth is found in the balance. I remember when I first encountered that the teaching of the…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (limjunus @ Sep. 22 2012,02:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2012,15:24)limjunus,I do believe that I as well as jammin believe in the Nicene Creed as stated here: I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible; And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, begotten of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (carmel @ Sep. 22 2012,01:03)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 22 2012,15:24)limjunus,I do believe that I as well as jammin believe in the Nicene Creed as stated here: I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible; And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, begotten of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Comics, cartoons, jokes and funny stories in the forum Chatroom 13 years, 9 months ago
Limjunus,Go here, last post on the page:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….6;st=30When you are on youtube, click on 'share,'Then find the 'old embed code,'Then copy 'old embed code' into your post,Then just post it. You can practice in the thread that I linked you to. Btw, I don't know how to do it from my ipad, just my laptop or desktop.Good…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 9 months ago
t8,Thanks for those answers. I didn't see any scriptural references though, do you have any scriptural defense of your ideas?you said this:Quote Who knows within the realms of eternity when certain things like father-hood and nature apply.If you believe what you said here, then you cannot say that you know for sure that the offspring wasn't always…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 9 months ago
Frank,you said:Quote No, what you have presented certainly does not lend any “help” in this matter!Sorry you think so. Nevertheless, I have found a great deal of support from the early church on John 1:18 saying 'the only begotten God.'I don't want to argue this with you.
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 9 months ago
limjunus,I do believe that I as well as jammin believe in the Nicene Creed as stated here: I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible; And in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only begotten Son of God, begotten of his Father before all worlds, God of God, Light of Light, very God of very…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 9 months ago
Yes Mike, semantics. Move on if you have nothing to say about the Peshitta here, please.
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2012,12:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2012,22:32)Mike,There is support for either side.I don't see any “support” for your side of this coin, Kathi. All I see are nonsensical claims designed to satisfy people who want to hear only what tickles their itching ears.But you are an intelligent person, Kathi. Surely you do n…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 20 2012,12:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2012,22:29)John 1:1 speaks of two who are God also and Jesus says they are one1:1 speaks of two who are called “theos” – only one of whom is called “THE theos”.Mike,I meant to post the above post right in this thread in response to your post that I am quoting here.Follow along, sonny

Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
BD,Again, do you have the Son of God and believe in the Son of God? The ONLY Begotten Son? Or is he just one of many/just one in a large number of sons to you?1 John 5:9 If we receive the testimony of men, the testimony of God is greater; for the testimony of God is this, that He has testified concerning His Son. 10The one who believes in the Son…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
Mike,Nevertheless, John chapter 1 speaks of the only begotten God. John 1:18 only one speaks of one God of whom is called 'the theos' and it is the only begotten one, yet there are two 'theos' mentioned.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 9 months ago
Hi Ted,Where would you like to discuss it? This is the Peshitta thread. Let me know, thx.
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 9 months ago
Mike,It's semantics, that's all.Back to the Peshitta…
Lightenup replied to the topic The Peshitta in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 13 years, 9 months ago
Mike,I think the only difference is that I do not call the Holy Spirit a person like the Father and Son are persons. I see Him as more of the inner person of both in unity as one Spirit in some contexts or the inner person distinctly of the Father or distinctly of the Son. But this has gone way off subject. Back to the Peshitta…please
If you…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Sep. 19 2012,19:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 18 2012,23:24) Thus, in Rev 15:3-4, when John refers to God as “holy,” using the term ὅσιος in a context where the emphasis is on both God and Christ………Poppycock. The song was either sung BY Moses AND the Lamb, or the song was sung TO Moses AND the Lamb.I understand that this…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic Biblical discussion – BD, LU, Mikeboll, ST in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 9 months ago
Quote (bodhitharta @ Sep. 19 2012,01:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 19 2012,13:59)BD,Can you say that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God? Can you say that Jesus is the only begotten God? You seem to shy away from that by calling Him 'the messenger' as if that is all He is…a 'carrier' of sorts. Did your dad call you a messenger or a son? Are you…[Read more]
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