You preach that satan is god, Mike. you keep exalting him.

satan may be the god of you Mike, but not of me. Count how you want but I have nothing to do with your logic.

Mike,Please delete your last two posts and respect the new terms of the thread.

Mike,When you leave out an important part, then that is not completely accurate. So, no, you were not completely accurate only partially accurate. Please refrain from telling others what I believe. I have to go to private discussions to get away from your attempt to belittle and confuse the person I am discussing with. Leave me alone! Stop…[Read more]

Jeremy,You are right that satan wants to be like God. He is threatened by the Son of God and wants to take away His glory.satan certainly doesn't want us to believe that Jesus is the Son of God, God in the flesh, and that He died for our sins which gave Him the victory over satan. satan just wants to twist any truth he can possibly twist and has…[Read more]

Mike,You were only speaking a half truth. You leave out the part about the perfect unity as one Most High authority/Godhead. Please stop telling people what I believe because you only present half truths.

To All,This thread is now a discussion between BD and myself, only, from this point. Please respect that and if you post here and you are not BD or myself, it will be requested that your post be deleted.Thank you

Mike,I think that you present yourself as innocent of one who belittles me personally. Since you do that, I find no reason to continue a discussion with you on here because I do feel that you continually belittle me personally. From now on, I will make this thread a discussion between BD and myself only. If you wish to discuss anything with me in…[Read more]

BD and Mike,Jesus is not the Almighty 'Father,' He is the Almighty 'Son'! Do either of you know of a greater son who has more authority than the one who was named Jesus, if so then tell us about him. If not, Jesus is the Almighty Son in regards to all creation.

Andrew,You asked:Quote Could you please explain for me begotten before time and begotten not made? I've never quite understood what these words mean.It seems like made but not made? I just don't get it.There is a belief that follows a form of Arianism that claims that there was a time when the Son was NOT, like the heavens and the earth were not…[Read more]

Andrew,If you aren't interested in your views being challenged then by all means know that you do not have to have a discussion with me here or anywhere. However, it is obvious that we see things quite differently. I have had many of the same questions as you have and I have sought them out with the opinion that Christ has always been the Head of…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 02 2012,21:22)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 02 2012,22:26)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 01 2012,19:53)KathiQuote Jude 1:4For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord,…[Read more]

Quote (AndrewAD @ Oct. 03 2012,16:42)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2012,02:57)Quote (AndrewAD @ Oct. 01 2012,15:04)Kathi,My first question about this ancient Syriac document is if it was found with one of St.Peters teeth or an angel feather to help authenticate it. Its interesting how the author uses Petrine and Johannine thought coupled with…[Read more]

Quote (AndrewAD @ Oct. 02 2012,20:02)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 03 2012,03:37)Quote (AndrewAD @ Oct. 02 2012,01:09)Now according to the trinitarian dogma God can't have a God because they are three equal persons,each being in and of themselves the one true God.But this verse says God does have a God.Another good post, Andrew.What you say is true of…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 02 2012,10:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 30 2012,13:39)Quote (mikeboll @ 64)And if we were told that the First Adam has existed from eternity, would this mean the Second Adam – the one the first Adam begot at some time – has also existed from eternity?If the first Adam existed from eternity, then he would be God. If the…[Read more]

Hi Andrew,Ok, I will again go through your post and address each point.you said:Quote I certainly have no problem with scripture and or any of the verses you posted other than a few that I believe have been misconstrued by the translators.So you admit that your ideas do not line up with all those scriptures as written, you have to change the…[Read more]

Hmmm…

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 01 2012,20:04)KathiTit 2:13, 14…while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of “our great God and Savior”, Jesus Christ, Who gave himself for us, “that he (Jesus) might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works”.  should it not be “OUR GREAT GOD and SA…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 01 2012,19:54)KathiHebrews 1:8But of the Son He says, “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER, AND THE RIGHTEOUS SCEPTER IS THE SCEPTER OF HIS KINGDOMwho his the HE that paul talks about Pierre,This verse is translated in a variety of ways but if it is supposed to read 'his kingdom,' we are told that Jesus would receive…[Read more]

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 01 2012,19:53)KathiQuote Jude 1:4For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.do you believe that what it says is related to individuals or to a…[Read more]