Quote (kerwin @ Oct. 12 2012,00:26)Quote (jammin @ Oct. 12 2012,10:17)mike,dont forget you homework.give a version that says FORM OF HIS GOD in phil 2.6ill wait boyJammin,You choose to put much faith in translators.  Why?jammin knows that the word 'his' is not in the text, Kerwin, so why are you getting on his case? Shouldn't you be getting on…[Read more]

Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 11 2012,12:37)Hi Mike,You notice how he refused to say “No” when I asked him the question of species.He knows that it doesn't sound right and he rejects the very wording he is describing.  Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 09 2012,16:22)Quote (jammin @ Oct. 09 2012,13:33)Quote (Ed J @ Oct. 09 2012,02:41)Hi Jammin,Rather than God being an…[Read more]

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Bo,Quote Why do none of these things make Moses a part of the Godhead, or equal to Jehovah……………. but if similar things are said about Jesus, those things DO make him “Jehovah Jr”, or equal to his own God? Jesus was not 'as' God but was God with God.Moses was 'as' God…a metaphor.John 1:1 does not say:In the beginning was the Word, and…[Read more]

Bo,Quote What's your take on Exodus 7:17? Exodus 7:17'Thus says the LORD, “By this you shall know that I am the LORD: behold, I will strike the water that is in the Nile with the staff that is in my hand, and it will be turned to blood.You need to read the whole story to realize the LORD is speaking metaphorically. Moses will be 'as' God to Aaron…[Read more]

BD,Quote God created Jesus by His Word not that Jesus was that word. Jesus was the Word that became flesh.So you agree that Jesus was the Word that became flesh, that's good. The scriptures say that Jesus, the Word, made all things and not one thing was made without Him. So you say something different, you say that all but many things was made…[Read more]

Bo,Read this and tell me if the 'Word' as per the Jewish understanding is, in some contexts, a presence of some sort or just always a spoken/written word.Quote Gen 3:88They heard the sound of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day, and the man and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God among the trees of the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 11 2012,06:23)LU, do you believe that God and the Lamb are 2 different beings as mentioned in the Book of Revelation. Or are they somehow both God according to your doctrine?t8-The Lamb/the Son/the only begotten God is a theosThe God/the Father is a theosTwo perfect beings/presences who are each a theos acting together as one most…[Read more]

t8-You said:Quote The son came from the Father. Jesus said if you do not believe that I came from God then you don't believe Jesus testimony and you instead believe a lie and the Father of lies is the Devil. So what subtle lie does the Devil try to convince Eve and other weak vessels that give him an ear? Is it that Jesus is God, thereby denying…[Read more]

Bo,Quote Okay well did Jesus directly say he was God and if he didn't why not?Well, He calls Himself the 'first and the last' which is declaring divinity.Rev 1:17 I am the first and the last, 18and the living One; and I was dead, and behold, I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of death and of Hades. Isaiah 44:6″Thus says the LORD, the King…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 10 2012,19:15)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 11 2012,10:32)BD,Quote Keep in mind that I love Jesus greatly and I consider myself arguing on his behalf that he would not ascribe himself what you have ascribed to him.I will keep that in mind, and so do I. He is who He is and if either or both of us deny who He is then one or both…[Read more]

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 10 2012,18:56)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 11 2012,10:25)BD,You asked:Quote If this is true how can Jesus have a BEGOTTEN NATURE and GOD not have that same nature?Jesus already had His nature before He was begotten. Even men have their nature determined before they are begotten/born. Jesus existed before the ages with divine…[Read more]

BD,Quote God gave MANKIND His Likeness ut in those early chapters Adam is not called “Son” and yet in the NT we find the statementLuke 3:38the son of Enosh, the son of Seth, the son of Adam, the son of God.So here we see that by the NT Adam is recognized as the son of God and he was the one who was made in the image and likeness of God according…[Read more]

BD,Quote Keep in mind that I love Jesus greatly and I consider myself arguing on his behalf that he would not ascribe himself what you have ascribed to him.I will keep that in mind, and so do I. He is who He is and if either or both of us deny who He is then one or both of us should want to know who He really is more than we want to hold onto…[Read more]

BD,You asked:Quote If this is true how can Jesus have a BEGOTTEN NATURE and GOD not have that same nature?Jesus already had His nature before He was begotten. Even men have their nature determined before they are begotten/born. Jesus existed before the ages with divine nature before He was begotten from the Father.

Quote (bodhitharta @ Oct. 10 2012,16:17)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 10 2012,16:04)BD,You asked me this:Quote The term God the Father is a Metaphor if it isn't then HE is the literal Father of all.This is why in Islam the usage of such language has been cleansed God is Unique there is none like HIM. HE is not begotten nor does HE Beget. Language ca be…[Read more]

BD,I will continue our discussion over here:https://www.heavennet.net/cgi-bin….y369356Thanks

BD,You asked me this:Quote The term God the Father is a Metaphor if it isn't then HE is the literal Father of all.This is why in Islam the usage of such language has been cleansed God is Unique there is none like HIM. HE is not begotten nor does HE Beget. Language ca be used very poetically to pint out certain things we should not ignore the…[Read more]