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Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
Bo,Is YHWH your God?
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 25 2012,12:23)Kathi,The SON OF the Most High God cannot also be the Most High God UNLESS you believe in TWO Most High Gods.You do, so many things in scripture simply don't apply to you. See, you have forsaken the most critical teaching of the Bible: Yahweh your God is ONE.You point out that the Hebrew word “echad” can r…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The Jews and divine plurality as per the videos in the forum Group Discussions 13 years, 8 months ago
Here are the slides that go with the videos…they are full of scriptures. What an awesome presentation!http://www.gracebellingham.org/index.p….emid=41
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 25 2012,14:20)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 24 2012,22:45)Why in the world would angels and men be YHWH since they were created?? You can't be YHWH and have a created beginningBingo! Jesus was created as the first of YHWH's works, and Micah 5 speaks about his beginning.Surely you can now at least see why we don't buy into y…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 25 2012,17:37)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 25 2012,18:45)Nah, He never emptied Himself of Himself. He was still YHWH the Son when He was also man.Oh this is getting real interesting now.YHWH 1 is the Father and doesn't have a name.YHWH 2 has the name Yeshua and he emptied himself of something.So lets revise the theory so far:Another…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 8 months ago
Watch the videos, learn something. I'm trying to help you!!
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago
So Ed, God has 4 tiles now…if He gets one more does He get kicked out from HN?Just kidding, I couldn't resist

Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,Notice your verse does not say 'Most High YHWH,' or 'Most High Lord.' My claim is that Elohim, a unity of two who are both eternal, one is Father and one is Son, and the Father is the God of gods then the Son who is Lord of Lords would be the Son of the Most High God. The Lord of lords is the Son of the God of gods. YHWH is both the God of…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Richtuner @ Oct. 25 2012,08:25)t8, Quote Oh I understand you wanting to move on. The biggest proof verse for the Trinity is not even a biblical verse.A simple, “Oh I didn't realise that this was not a verse” would have sufficed.You see this is my point. You still accuse me of something I don't believe. Calling people out and telling them…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago
T8Quote (t8 @ Oct. 25 2012,03:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 25 2012,18:03)t8,You should get to know the shema: “Hear O Israel, the LORD our God , the LORD is One .”I see.”Hear O Israel,Yahweh our Gods, the Yahweh is One substance.”Let's just say that you are on your own with that one.“Hear O Israel, the LORD our God , the LORD is One .”Do…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 8 months ago
Here you skeptics go, t8, Mike, Pierre…plenty of scripture to help you see.Watch all four videos here:http://dawnmarie4.wordpress.com/an-unex….stament
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 24 2012,19:29)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 21 2012,16:38)When I say “original eternal nature” I'm referring to the eternal past.Which comes from the creeds of men.Another God eternally proceeding from the Original God and yet not one without the other and both YHWH, and sharing the same DNA code that is spirit, but excluding angels and…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 23 2012,13:55)The question was WHY would we need to come to the SECOND Almighty God? If Jesus can do everything his own God can do, then why is the hope to be judged worthy by Jesus to approach God?Is the second Almighty God capable of doing something for us that the first one cannot do? YES or NO?Yes, one is a F…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago
t8,You should get to know the shema: “Hear O Israel, the LORD our God , the LORD is One .”
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 18 2012,09:15)2) Hear, O Israel; Yahweh our Elohim is ONE.Btw, Elohim is a plural word so no need to add an s to it.YHWH is called 'him' and not 'them' because it is the name of a unity in that case.The church is called a 'she' and not a them for the same reason although it too has more than one member.Yahweh our Elohim is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
They are both YHWH. Do you not know what a unity means…Do YOU believe the Shema? YHWH our Elohim, YHWH is one? Nothing there mentions allah. Is YHWH your God?
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Oct. 24 2012,00:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 23 2012,13:11)And when you are done with those verses, put t8's understanding to the test when God is mentioned in some other verses…substitute 'God' with the word 'Father' and see if t8's understanding passes the test:John 1:1In the beginning was the word, and the word was with the Father,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 8 months ago
t8,apekriqh Qwmav kai eipen autw, O kuriov mou kai o qeov mou.This verse is John 20:28, it has your definite article with qeov, 'o qeov' and refers to Jesus as “the God of me” when literally translated. So unless you admit that Jesus is also identified as 'the God' of Christians then you are not being honest. Also, the Father is the God of this…
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
“Hear O Israel, the LORD our God , the LORD is One .”This is my confession.
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
The video does not disagree with the Shema, it supports it.
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