Mike,Quote But could you tell jammin that “God the only SON” is not a viable translation of “monogenes theos”?I think that jammin understands monogenes theos as the only begotten God. I think that what you have in quote marks, he means to say 'the only begotten God that is the only begotten Son.'

Watch this for a scholar teaching about the Jewish Trinity: Israelite MonotheismHe specializes and has a doctorate in studying ancient texts. This will be helpful to all!

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 18 2012,12:31)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 18 2012,22:47)Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 18 2012,11:39)kathiQuote This does not make Him less powerful than the Lamb, it just makes Him not qualified as one who had to overcome the temptation to sin and be slain. There are many things that the Lamb did that the Father did not do and many…[Read more]

When I say “original eternal nature” I'm referring to the eternal past. Btw, Jesus wouldn't have died if He didn't empty Himself and become flesh.Go watch that video! Please!!

Watch the video to answer many of your questions, Bo.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 18 2012,09:27)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 18 2012,07:54)Mike,you asked:Quote Also, do you acknowledge that you can't make a SOLID claim of “God-worship” to Jesus just from the Greek word “proskuneo”, and that any claims of such from you or others is only wishful thinking that can't possibly be proved from scripture?No, not…[Read more]

Correction, Jesus is not the same as or equal to God the Father but He is the same as what God the Father is in essence and attributes. When He was made lower than the angels, naturally He prayed to God the Father.Did you watch that video?

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 20 2012,16:09)Quote (jammin @ Oct. 19 2012,03:36)the greek word says monogenes theos.it also means GOD THE ONLY SON.Not even in your wildest dreams does “monogenes theos” mean “God the only Son”.Ask your friend Kathi about it, jammin.  She'll confirm what I'm telling you.Mike,I heard a scholar talk about this and he…[Read more]

Mike,This is a good translation of Phil 2:6 to show you the view that fits best, imo.Philippians 2:6-11New International Version (NIV)6 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God (the Father) something to be used to his own advantage;7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being…[Read more]

I'm sorry William that you have such pain. I will pray for you!God bless,Kathi

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 18 2012,18:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 19 2012,04:36)Animals are under man's authority no matter the man's choices…he/she is given authority simply because the nature of being human due to the Creator's design when 'they' made us.But humans can die like animals because not all are honourable or worthy. Likewise a person might be…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 19 2012,18:15)Quote (t8 @ Oct. 18 2012,17:24)True Mike.A mediator who takes us to God, is not a mediator if he is God.Exactly t8,If human beings must go through a mediator to get to God, then the mediator cannot be the God we are going through him to get to.(Boy, that's an oddly worded sentence.   )How strange that you…[Read more]

Please watch this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v….re=plcp

Do you understand that I believe that the Son is exactly like His Father in nature and attributes?

The Son doesn't command the Father. The Father has not been begotten by the Son. The Father was not modeled after the Son. The Father could be crucified only if He purposed to do that but He would have to come in the flesh. The Father does not pray to anyone. Why would you ask these questions?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjYzeDcy2iQ&list=UUNJkH2Q1q8_zp7LzRGUpnTw&index=33&feature=plcpPerhaps you might take him more seriously.

Quote (terraricca @ Oct. 18 2012,11:39)kathiQuote This does not make Him less powerful than the Lamb, it just makes Him not qualified as one who had to overcome the temptation to sin and be slain. There are many things that the Lamb did that the Father did not do and many things that the Father does that the Lamb did not do. That only speaks to…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 18 2012,11:11)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 18 2012,09:46)I do not see the unity of believer's as one WITH Them but one AS They are…all in one name,  or as one AS being IN Them. Do you know of one of these 'unity' statements that says we are one WITH them?Well of course YOU don't see it, Kathi.  You are blinded by your d…[Read more]

Mike,This context of being 'one' has to do with works/authority:Quote      22At that time the Feast of the Dedication took place at Jerusalem; 23it was winter, and Jesus was walking in the temple in the portico of Solomon. 24The Jews then gathered around Him, and were saying to Him, “How long will You keep us in suspense? If You are the Chri…[Read more]