Mike,You forgot this verse…how many theos on the throne that the Father sits on after the Son has overcome?Rev 3:21To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne.

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 28 2012,20:50)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2012,23:39)If the Father is the only true God, as you claim, the Son is the only true ____.Please fill in the blank, thanks!“Son, Servant, Messiah, Prophet, and Lamb OF God”.Thanks Mike,Do you think that 'Lord' should be on that list?Also, you listed that Jesus is the one true son.…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2012,22:38)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,20:30)Yet you believe that Jesus was not eternal but had a beginning to His existence. When was that, t8?Approximately 1,009,876,690,545,443.987987987 light years before creation. NOTE: I might be out by a .00001 of a nanosecond.So, basically you have no idea Do you believe that the…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2012,17:07)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2012,07:53)“Is that a deal?” Are you joking? Are you really needing to 'make a deal' before you will answer my questions?Yes.Why?

Hi Bo,When we see YHWH speaking as one, it is as YHWH Echad (the eternal unity).

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 27 2012,19:01)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 20 2012,21:05)Mike,The first 'God' is a word that is in contrast to 'servant.'God would mean 'a type of nature that would be served as God.'So then like this?6 Who, being in very nature someone that should be served as God,   did not consider equality with God (the Father) something…[Read more]

Quote (carmel @ Oct. 27 2012,14:19)Quote ALL THAT MY FATHER HAS ARE MINE!!!   Lightenup,I do my best to be brief:Genesis 3:17…………..cursed is the earth in thy work;………………. As you can read, although the earth, was perfect, through Adam’s labour, through his evil contaminated energy, obvious since Satan’s spirit was in his soul…[Read more]

Pierre,You are not still a project manager if you are retired from being a project manager. You are still and always have been a son of your father though, before you were a project manager, while you were a project manager and even now that you are retired from being a project manager. Being the Son of God was not a 'job' He could possibly retire…[Read more]

Bo,Did you know that 'echad' can mean a unity of more than one member? The word is used here for two persons becoming one flesh, many people with one voice, and many people becoming one people for example:Genesis 2:24 For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh. 25And…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2012,23:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,23:50)t8,Quote “For us there is one God the Father.”For you there are at least 2 gods, God the Father, and God the Son.I don't have two God the Fathers, I just have one God the Father also…who happens to be with one God the Son.Mike,Jesus can do EVERYTHING He sees the Almighty…[Read more]

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 27 2012,23:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,23:50)t8,Quote “For us there is one God the Father.”For you there are at least 2 gods, God the Father, and God the Son.I don't have two God the Fathers, I just have one God the Father also…who happens to be with one God the Son.Mike,Jesus can do EVERYTHING He sees the Almighty…[Read more]

Pierre,Do you believe that the Lamb is not also the Son of God?

Quote (t8 @ Oct. 28 2012,00:55)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 28 2012,19:39)I have a question for the skeptics who believe that Jesus was created, t8, Mike and all. I don't believe he was created. Creation is defined as all that was made by God through Christs/Word.Jesus is special in that he is the first born of all creation. Then all things that were…[Read more]

Mike,The Father and the Son are both the 'First and the Last.'Isaiah 44:6Thus said Jehovah, king of Israel, And his Redeemer, Jehovah of Hosts: 'I am the first, and I the last, And besides Me there is no God.Rev 22:12“Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. 13“I am the Alpha and…[Read more]

I have a question for the skeptics who believe that Jesus was created, t8, Mike and all. If the Father is the only true God, as you claim, the Son is the only true ____.Please fill in the blank, thanks!

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Oct. 27 2012,03:59)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,22:50)Mike,Jesus can do EVERYTHING He sees the Almighty God the Father doing. How can one do that unless He is almighty also.What scripture says Jesus can do EVERYTHING the Father can do?Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,22:50) Remembering that the Son is a theos…how many theos…[Read more]

t8you said:Quote Each is YHWH because they are melded together by the spirit according to you.Each is YHWH because each eternally existed. Their Spirit is united to be one spirit within believers.

Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 26 2012,23:50)t8,Quote “For us there is one God the Father.”For you there are at least 2 gods, God the Father, and God the Son.I don't have two God the Fathers, I just have one God the Father also…who happens to be with one God the Son.Mike,Jesus can do EVERYTHING He sees the Almighty God the Father doing. How can one do…[Read more]

No Mike,Eternal beings are almighty and can do anything they purpose to do. The eternal Father had to have an eternal Son within Him in order to be a 'father.'I don't know of any fathers who were fathers before their first offspring existed within their parent.

t8,Quote “For us there is one God the Father.”For you there are at least 2 gods, God the Father, and God the Son.I don't have two God the Fathers, I just have one God the Father also…who happens to be with one God the Son.Mike,Jesus can do EVERYTHING He sees the Almighty God the Father doing. How can one do that unless He is almighty also. Two…[Read more]