Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,18:04)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,10:38)It is amazing how people point out that one date isn't known by Jesus and forget that He knows everything else.Your dreaming again. Prove to me that this is the only thing that he doesn't know. And he knows all else.It stands to reason that if Jesus doesn't know that date it…[Read more]

Deut 32:17 shows that demons were sacrificed to and referred to as elohim and translated as 'gods.'New International Version (©1984)They sacrificed to demons, which are not God–gods they had not known, gods that recently appeared, gods your fathers did not fear.New Living Translation (©2007)They offered sacrifices to demons, which are not God, t…[Read more]

So we can see that the term 'elohim' is used to refer to other beings also besides just the God (Elohim) of Israel.The word 'elohim' was translated in different ways as we see in 1 Sam 28:13New International Version (©1984)The king said to her, “Don't be afraid. What do you see?” The woman said, “I see a spirit coming up out of the…[Read more]

Quote (jammin @ Nov. 02 2012,03:43)mike said:Lord have mercy, jammin.  Surely you MUST be smarter than this, right?    Can I say, “The Bible is the written word of God”, even though the word “Bible” isn't even in the Bible?  Or would I be a “false teacher” for making that claim?    I swear, sometimes I just want to reach into the computer and s…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,15:00)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 19 2012,02:53)t8,Isn't the qualification of opening the scroll to actually be the one who was slain? Was the Father qualified to open the scroll, no…the Father was not slain. This does not make Him less God, or less powerful.God knows when Jesus is coming back. Jesus does not know that. God…[Read more]

Philippians 2:10That in The Name of Yeshua, every knee shall bow, which is in Heaven and in The Earth and which is under The Earth, 11And every tongue shall confess that Yeshua The Messiah is THE LORD JEHOVAH to the glory of God his Father.

Go ahead t8, just answer the question or should we just assume that you don't know?

Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 01 2012,14:14)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,22:50)Mike,Here is a verse, 'gods':Gal 4:6 However at that time, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those which by nature are no gods.That is good that you answered jammin.I have said  all I'm going to say about John 1:18 in this regard. It really seems…[Read more]

Mike,I'm saying that Jesus existed in god type nature.Also, can you provide the link to the definition of monogenes in the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance?

t8,How many theos do we need to know, believe in and serve for eternal life?

Jesus is not Lord over the Father, t8, He is Lord over the created lords.Together the Father and Son are the God of gods and the Lord of lords, the YHWH Echad, the eternal unity.When did Jesus become a theos or was He always a theos according to you?

Jesus is both, so is the Father.

Your YHWH is only the God of gods, t8, mine is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords. Maybe if you ask the Father, He will be gracious to you and give you the Spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know Him better.

Jesus was not comparing the Father to Himself but to the gods being worshiped all around Jesus in the world. Jesus was including Himself in who was to be known for eternal life.

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,00:43)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,17:12)Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 01 2012,21:53)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,20:45)Mike,I think this sums things up to show that Jesus is making Himself out to be the Son of God and therefore God with the Father:I tell you the truth, the Son can do nothing by himself……………I…[Read more]

Jesus is only Lord to you if He is not YHWH the Son who is the Lord of lords. Isn't that right, t8?1 Cor 12:3Because I inform you of this: there is no man who speaks by The Spirit of God and says, “Yeshua is damned”, neither can a man say, “Yeshua is THE LORD JEHOVAH”, except by The Spirit of Holiness.

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,00:35)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,19:17)The Father gave His Son His name YHWH before creation.There you go dreaming again.When are you going to wake up.There is a second power called YHWH and the video about two powers proves it with scriptures. Did you watch it?

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,00:40)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,19:09)Quote The second point is HIS because Israel is a single nation.YHWH is HE because YHWH is a single unity.So you admit that Israel is HIM because Israel is one nation.Why don't you just say it was right instead of not publicly acknowledging it and trying to enforce another point…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,00:19)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 02 2012,19:09)Quote The second point is HIS because Israel is a single nation.YHWH is HE because YHWH is a single unity.Technically that could work, but it completely contradicts scripture making you wrong. These prove you are wrong and as I said before they also prove that Trinitarians are…[Read more]

Adam is not called the son of God in the genealogies check your interlinear the word 'son' is not there.YHWH the Son is what HE is and Yeshua is what He came to be called in His incarnation.YHWH is the name of the Father, is it not? Yeshua is not the name of the Father. The Father gave His Son His name YHWH before creation. The Father gave Him…[Read more]