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Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,07:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Oct. 29 2012,21:50)t8,You have a couple of questions that you have not answered. Keep in mind that this is the hot seat and if you avoid questions you get a tile unless you are above your own rules
Here are the questions you haven't answered that I am asking you to answer:Quote Now, please…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
Bo,Prove what the 'cup' was…was it being a sacrifice or was it being tortured. I don't believe that He was asking to not be the sacrifice but was asking to not be tortured. He could have ascended right there in the garden if He wanted to. It was His choice to stay and die. He chose to die before He came as man, that is why He came as a man. He…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,16:57)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,22:16)Paul is not identifying the Father as the one YHWH or the one God in the fullest sense of the word.Hmmmm………………..
How do you know? From the other things Paul says about our “one God, the Father”, it seems to me that he considers Him to be “God in the f…[Read more]Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,16:58)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,22:20)t8,It is like you are almost getting it but then you don't. It really is simple and most Christians agree that the Father and Son are both YHWH. I don't know why you think I am the only one.How many organized denominations teach about our TWO Almighty Gods, Kathi?There is…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,19:31)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 01 2012,22:39)You, t8 believes that YHWH is ONLY the God of gods and not also the Lord of lords. I believe that YHWH is both the God of gods and the Lord of lords.Matthew 11:25At that time Jesus said, “I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these t…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,16:47)Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,22:10)Here is what you are implicating:2) That Jesus was made both Lord and Christ, and that he has always been God too.She claims that Jesus was MADE Lord – even though he HAS ALREADY BEEN Lord from eternity.Quote (t8 @ Nov. 01 2012,22:10)You are drunk on your own doctrine and cannot…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic The divider of Christians in the forum Truth or Tradition 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (t8 @ Nov. 02 2012,21:13)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,03:50)Jesus is not Lord over the Father, t8, He is Lord over the created lords.Why are you telling me this?Because you said this and implied that I was saying that Jesus was the Lord of the Father. I am not saying that.Quote To anyone who can read scripture and reason, that person…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
Bo,Quote So what you are saying is the sacrificing of a son is an abomination and foreign to God, right? I agree.The sacrificing that was happening in those scriptures was not a mutual desire between the children being sacrificed and the parents who are sacrificing them from what I can tell and therefore it was murder by the parents. If a person…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (terraricca @ Nov. 03 2012,16:08)KathiI believe the word SCROLL (S) IS USED BECAUSE THEY WERE ROLLED UP ,RIGHT
Pierre,Scroll or book form it is to biblio.Either way, it is 'biblio' in the Greek and God's word.Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,13:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 03 2012,11:42)Mike, biblos is the Greek word for 'book' and the scriptures are referred to as 'the book.' Biblos is where we get the word 'Bible.'In which scripture are the scriptures referred to as “The Book”?Mike,For instance:John 20:30Therefore many other signs Jesus also…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 03 2012,12:26)Kathi,Are you going to answer these questions?1. Does the Greek word “monogenes”, IN AND OF ITSELF, mean “only son”? YES or NO?2. Do the Greek words “monogenes theos”, IN AND OF THEMSELVES, mean “God the only Son”? YES or NO?3. Kathi, IF Paul was indeed talking about Jesus existing in the form of Jeho…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
Bo,What is better, to be all loving or all knowing. What if not knowing something is due to a loving reason. Maybe it is for the sake of love that the Father only knows the day and the hour to spare the Son of having to make that call. We don't know why the Son does not know the day or the hour of His return but if love is greater than knowledge,…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike,The 'begotten' part of only begotten is from a certain root word and is often confused with another root word. You may be looking at the wrong root word. I think you have to look into the correct Greek root word and an English dictionary is not going to be specific enough. What Strong's # is the root word for begotten that you are looking…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
He was referring to the YHWH Echad which He is a part of with the Father.
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
Quote My point was that if you believe in God and don't believe his testimony, (like the Jews as you said) then you don't really believe..That's true and your answer of one theos is not correct. You deny the Son as another theos that you must believe in, know, and serve for eternal salvation.A half truth is not the full truth. You seem to really…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike, biblos is the Greek word for 'book' and the scriptures are referred to as 'the book.' Biblos is where we get the word 'Bible.'
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 8 months ago
Mike please provide the link to your source because my source for Strong's does not have 'generate' in it.
Lightenup replied to the topic LU and BD Biblical discussion cont'd in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
Hi Bo, the command is to love YHWH your God…YHWH is the God of gods and the Lord of lords-YHWH Echad, the eternal unity.
Lightenup replied to the topic Proclaimer vs Lightenup in the forum Debates 13 years, 8 months ago
Wrong, you lose the bonus round!1 John 5:9We accept man’s testimony, but God’s testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. 10Anyone who believes in the Son of God has this testimony in his heart. Anyone who does not believe God has made him out to be a liar, because he has not believed the tes…[Read more]
Lightenup replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 13 years, 8 months ago
t8,Quote But if we have God, then we have his son as the result.Many Jews think they have God but they do not have the Son as the result. Scriptures say that we need to know the Son for eternal life but you say we only need to know the Father. The Holy Spirit has so much to teach you! I think I will clue you in at the hot seat thread. Go there and…[Read more]
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