Two powers of YHWH does not break the commandment. This was a common understanding amongst the Jews of the first century according to the canonical literature as well as the non-canonical literature.If there is one power with another that is the exact representation of the first, then we have two powers that are equal. This is not hard.

So t8,You admit that there are two that are called theos who share the throne of the Father…Now answer the next question which I will ask for the second time:How can an exact reproduction of something be a prototype?

Hi Wakeup, This thread is a private conversation between t8 and myself. There are a number of other threads that you can comment in that are open to everyone. Thanks for respecting that.

There is mention of it right here:Isaiah 53 The Suffering Servant1Who has believed our message? And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?2For He grew up before Him like a tender shoot, And like a root out of parched ground; He has no stately form or majesty That we should look upon Him, Nor…[Read more]

Bo,Please read:Acts 26:12“While so engaged as I was journeying to Damascus with the authority and commission of the chief priests, 13at midday, O King, I saw on the way a light from heaven, brighter than the sun, shining all around me and those who were journeying with me. 14“And when we had all fallen to the ground, I heard a voice saying to me…[Read more]

2 Tim 313But evil men and impostors will proceed from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14You, however, continue in the things you have learned and become convinced of, knowing from whom you have learned them, 15and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation…[Read more]

Quote He is theos in the sense that angels and men can be theos. Of course much more than us because he is so much better than the angels and among the sons, he is the prototype. Nevertheless, my point is that he is not the Most High and Only True Theos.I didn't ask how many Most High and only True theos were seated on the Father's throne. I…[Read more]

All are invited to discuss this topic but you must watch all four videos and then discuss the videos, not insult members here (sad that I have to add the last part but as you can read the earlier posts of t8, the moderator no less, and terraricca on this thread-unfortunately I do). Here is how 'elohim' is translated in Psalms 82:1New International…[Read more]

Furthermore, Bo, Jesus did not, at any time, claim or give the Father any glory for sparing Him the death of the cross after the crucifixion and resurrection. He has let people believe and write that He did in fact die and rise again…that He purchased the church with HIS blood. Wouldn't that be dishonorable of Him and an abomination to lie at…[Read more]

Bo,We aren't told why she didn't recognize Him, maybe she didn't look intently, maybe she was teary and couldn't see clearly. It didn't take her long before she did recognize Him. She certainly wasn't expecting Him to be standing there.Thomas saw the scars in His hand and side and so this is proof that He was hung on the cross. This proves that it…[Read more]

Thanks for your answer, t8.So new question…regarding these two following verses, how many persons are seated together on the Father's throne and who are they?The verses are:Rev 22:1Then he showed me a river of the water of life, clear as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb,Rev 3:21To him who overcomes, I will give the right to…[Read more]

Also, Pierre,The word you meant is 'which' not 'witch.'Those two words have completely different meanings.

Pierre, Do you know what a witch is?Definition of WITCH1: one that is credited with usually malignant supernatural powers; especially : a woman practicing usually black witchcraft often with the aid of a devil or familiar : sorceress — compare warlock2: an ugly old woman : hag3: a charming or alluring girl or woman4: a practitioner of Wicca5: w…[Read more]

Quote Jesus has a God are you really seriously going to tell me that the God of Jesus has a God?Confused…do you think I am telling you this?Do you think that the man on the cross was not Jesus but someone else?

Mike,Quote THEN, at the next LOWER position is man, who is under both our ONE and ONLY Almighty God AND ALSO UNDER the one our God appointed as our Lord.THEN comes woman, at an even LOWER level.In a husband/wife relationship the husband is the head of the wife but yet they are one and yet they are equal.Do you disagree with this statement?In the…[Read more]

Mike,The YHWH Echad, the eternal unity, is not dependent on roles, or titles, but it is dependent on eternal existence. The Shema doesn't say eternal God of gods or eternal Lord of lords but it does indicate two powers who are eternal, one as the God of gods and one as the Lord of lords and at the time the Shema was first introduced, the Father…[Read more]

Mike,I think that you are thinking about 'gennao,' Strong's #1080 which is translated as 'generate' in 2 Tim 2:23World English BibleBut refuse foolish and ignorant questionings, knowing that they generate strife.Strong's #1096 is not translated as 'generate' so therefore, I am not going to either.The English dictionary is not making a distinction…[Read more]

Well Mike,He was eternally YHWH the Son before creation. His YHWH status did not depend on being Lord over something but instead it depended on being eternal.

Pierre,Is there a 'witch heaven?'

Bo, Do you believe that the whippings and scourging was removed from Him too?They are interdependently sovereign. The Father creates through the Son, redeems mankind through the Son, gives eternal life through the Son, judges all men through the Son, etc. Their interdependence is not a weakness but the Almighty strength and perfection.Quote So why…[Read more]