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    So are you coming back to HN or just stopping by?

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    That is such good news about your wife's healing, PTL! It was my pleasure to pray for her. I read that you were moving to FL. What you two will be doing sounds like a worthy adventure!

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 15 2012,20:08)Kathi,You've showed me posts from this guy before.  Why do you suppose what HE says doesn't align with what the Aramaic experts of FOUR DIFFERENT dictionaries say?Do you think it might be because he, like you, is trying hard to FORCE Jesus into being God Almighty?  I do.  :)Your man said, “If MRYA is not the Em…[Read more]

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    Woe…Keith, thanks, how are you? Nice to see you here!

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    t8,Oh, I'm guessing 5 times or so. I believe He is called Jehovah more than that in the entire Bible. He is also called the First and the Last which implies eternal existence. He is also said to be the one who directly created everything in heaven and on earth while the Father indirectly created everything. Does that help you consider Jesus as…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 15 2012,20:08)Kathi,You've showed me posts from this guy before.  Why do you suppose what HE says doesn't align with what the Aramaic experts of FOUR DIFFERENT dictionaries say?Do you think it might be because he, like you, is trying hard to FORCE Jesus into being God Almighty?  I do.  :)Your man said, “If MRYA is not the Em…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 15 2012,17:32)Quote (jammin @ Nov. 14 2012,02:38)Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)“For today, The Savior has been born to you, who is THE LORD JEHOVAH The Messiah, in the city of David.”So the Lord Jehovah was BORN?  And the Lord Jehovah is the Messiah OF the Lord Jehovah?  Hmmmmm………..I guess the Cathol…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 15 2012,17:38)Quote (jammin @ Nov. 14 2012,02:53)yes one God. they are one.One God, but THEY are one?  jammin, the plural pronoun “they” doesn't apply to ONE.  It applies to more than one.Since you are afraid to answer simple questions, I'll just spell it out for you.The scriptures say that Jesus is the Son of God.  …[Read more]

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    Mike,you said:Quote For example, you say God is the Father of Jesus, therefore it proves Jesus isn't created. What? He is my Father too, right? Does that mean I'M not created?That is right, if God is the Father of Jesus and He is not adopted as a son but is the only begotten Son in the beginning, that means He is not created. He is not your…[Read more]

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    Mike,The God of Jesus can only be our saving God while being understood as being one with Jesus. He is not our saving God apart from Jesus.If God the Father is not one with Jesus, He is not our saving God but is our God who does not save us. Jesus' God is one with Him.

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    Quote (david @ Nov. 14 2012,22:11)Hi Kathy. Sorry.  You responded perfectly.  One quick sentence.  I shouldn't have included your name.  Back to the actual topic:Do mike, t8 and Pierre only agree on the 3 (or 4) things we have listed?Thanks David for realizing this. It's all good. :)

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago

    Mike,you asked:Quote Kathi,1. Is it possible that the Father, BY HIMSELF, is the God of gods and Lord of lords? 2. Is it possible that Jesus is someone OTHER THAN God Almighty, who is ALSO called by the title “Lord of lords”? 3. Does the fact that the Father and the Son share a title automatically combine them together in some compound unity…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago

    Mike,Quote Quote Jesus directly makes that claim that He and the Father are one.He also makes request of his God and our God that some of us also be one with them.  So what's your point?Where doe it say that some of us will also be one 'with' them?

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago

    Mike,Quote Can YOU show ANY scripture (OT or NT) that says they've ALWAYS been “one”?They are both the 'First and the Last.' The First and the Last is another way for saying the name YHWH and YHWH is echad.Quote Kathi, you and I agree that “The Father” is the God of Jesus. Now, if we and Jesus have the same God, as your Lord said we do, who is…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago

    Mike,Quote Yet you do it with our ONE God.The word 'God/god' has different meanings. In the Shema, it doesn't say that YHWH is one God. Is says that YHWH our God is YHWH Echad. You have to look at context to determine of God is said in a general sense as a type of being with a certain nature or a specific sense or a position, or a name.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago

    Mike,Quote So what scripture makes you think Jehovah isn't “one singular person”? The Shema. We both agree that it would seem odd for one person to declare that he is one. We also both can see that if Israel, as a nation, would say that it were one, that would make sense.

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    Our salvation is based on the work of one who is both theos and man, not on our works.

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    Here Mike,This helps explain that MRYA is not an emphatic form of Mara. He says that the 'y' or 'yodh' would not be inserted in a noun to make it emphatic.Quote See Matthew 11:25 and Luke 10:21: “Mara de Shmayya” (The Lord of Heaven”). The Emphatic Mara is indicated due to its position prior to the Daleth Proclitic. If it were Absolute it would be…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 13 2012,19:36)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 12 2012,21:43)MRYA is an acronym and used as a placeholder for YHWH in the Aramaic manuscript from what I have been told.See here:http://www.scribd.com/doc….eshittOFrom the site you linked:Meem: Marutha (“Adonship”)Resh: Rabbutha (“Mightyness/Grandeur, Splendour, Splendor, G…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago

    Mike,Quote Kathi, the God of Jesus is the God of us. If Jesus' God is not a compound unity echad thingy, then neither is our God.I told you that the God of Jesus was His Father, not His creator so the God of Jesus is not your God because you believe that the God of Jesus is His creator, not His literal Father.

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