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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Nov. 18 2012,16:33)Is, I can't find it. I can see 1 John 1:2-3, but not your paraphrase of John 17:1-5. Please copy and paste it as it will take you less than a minute if it is there. I would appreciate that.I am not necessarily speaking for Paul since he can speak very well for himself but I would like to address John 17:1-5I agree…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 16 2012,22:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 16 2012,14:26)t8-1.  Where does scripture say that the judges were theos?2.  Where have men been called theos?3.  Where are angels called theos?1.  Judges 5:8 NASB © “New gods were chosen; Then war was in the gates. Not a shield or a spear was seen Among forty thousand in Isra…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 16 2012,22:25)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2012,19:49)Mike,you asked:Quote Kathi,1.  Is it possible that the Father, BY HIMSELF, is the God of gods and Lord of lords?  2.  Is it possible that Jesus is someone OTHER THAN God Almighty, who is ALSO called by the title “Lord of lords”?  3.  Does the fact that the Father and the…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 16 2012,22:21)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 15 2012,19:42)Where doe it say that some of us will also be one 'with' them?John 17:21that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.It seems to me that “being one” means Jesus is in…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 16 2012,15:26)t8-Where does scripture say that the judges were theos?Where have men been called theos?Where are angels called theos?I asked t8 this question in the quoted post and did not get an answer but scripture that do not specifically say that judges are theos, or men, or angels. He tried to tell me that satan was the…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Nov. 16 2012,22:39)Quote (Lightenup @ Nov. 16 2012,05:38)T8 and Mike,Please answer this question:Do you agree that the two who are called 'the theos' in scriptures and are together involved in creation, salvation of all mankind, sit together on one throne, whose name has power to heal, who receive all praise honor, glory AND…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 5 months ago

    Hello, I hope that all members in America had a Happy Thanksgiving! I was gone out of town for a week but I'm back and I see that there are many posts to address. Mike, and t8, I do not have time now to address everything so, bring up again what you would especially like me to address and I will do the same. Sorry for any confusion.

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    Mike,Was the 'word' in John 1c THE only begotten God?

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    Ahhhh…depending on who is 'invited,' this could be the beginnings of the HN cybercult directed by a fearless leader, i.e. 'Super Moderator.' Would there be an initiation ceremony? How about levels to achieve?Wait a minute…this sounds like something that would be considered an 'organized religion' that would be organized by those who are…[Read more]

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    You ask the moderators for them here in this thread. New members do not automatically get them. t8/Heaven the moderator will likely give them to you. Then you can edit your post and substitute the wrong code with the right code for each video.

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    AWHN,Do you have editing rights?

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    Hi AWHN,I'll try this and see if it works better:

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    AWHN,Did you use the old embed code?

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    Hello Guncher,What you are experiencing is not uncommon for a Christian from time to time. We must never give up on the Lord but instead surrender to His righteousness and payment for our sin which, btw is big enough for the worst of the worst sinners. Let love guide you and cling to the Father and the Son who love you with an everlasting love and…[Read more]

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    I was just talking about when 'the theos' was used for Jesus, not theos without the 'the.'Your evaluation is not correct if you consider 'the theos' and 'theos' without the article.I would say that the Father is most of the 'the theos' and 'theos' without the article.Then, the Son.Then, the idols and false gods.Where are men and satan called…

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago

    t8-Quote What does this ultimately prove. It proves that if you ask a question that contains certain criteria, you force it to match the answer you are looking for. That in itself is not bad (I think) but if you then tie that answer to a philosophy you happen to hold to, it doesn't really provide any real proof because all you are doing is…[Read more]

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago

    t8-Where does scripture say that the judges were theos?Where have men been called theos?Where are angels called theos?

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    Bo,He emptied Himself to become much lower than He was to serve those who should be serving Him, and then suffered and died for the same.

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 6 months ago

    t8 and Mike,Quote How many persons that have been called 'the theos' anywhere in the Bible…:1. do we need to know, believe in, and serve, in order to gain eternal life?2. were involved in creating all things in heaven and on earth?3. are mentioned in our prayers?4. are we to believe in the power of their name?5. are to receive all honor, and…[Read more]

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    I'm glad you found such a wonderful woman to spend time with. That is surely a better way to spend your time :) Thanks for stopping by. :D Love to you too!

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