Ha, the three dog team make up one cult…that is three in one! (That is humorous, right)

Hi 2besee,No, I do not agree with Mike and T that the Son was a god. I believe that God is a Father with an offspring and that offspring existed eternally, first within the Father and then was begotten from the Father before creation. The offspring is the only begotten God. Though it seems like two Gods, they are one God in the similar sense that…[Read more]

Hi 2besee,I looked all of that you asked me to. What specifically is your point?The Spirit knows the thoughts of God…this would agree with the Spirit being God's 'inner person.' Right?The Son knows the Father…this would agree with the Son being an offspring within the Father until He was begotten and with Him in the beginning. The Son was the…[Read more]

Jesus appeared to Saul/Paul after Pentecost which was after His ascension when the church was beginning to be established and Saul was taking part in having the Christians stoned/killed for speaking in the name of Jesus.

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 23 2013,23:19)Prepare yourselves Church. The Binitarians and Trinitarians are attacking us again.Bring out the Word of God.The cult leader of the church of three members feels attacked…keep it up guys!Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil.

Quote (t8 @ Jan. 23 2013,23:28)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 24 2013,11:31)Right on Keith. Last I looked, men do not have the same nature as a cow. The term 'cow' is an identity of sorts but within the cow barn, Old Betsie the cow is a different identity than Old Maggie, another cow, yet they are equally both cows. They both have the same strengths and…[Read more]

Quote (2besee @ Jan. 23 2013,16:35)Hi Lup.Have you ever considered that perhaps the Son is the eternal Spirit which had no beginning as in was not created but is a part of the one true God YHVH just as a persons spirit is a part of the totality of who they are?Hi 2bes(Lup?) How about LU for short, ok?Yes I have considered that. I understand the…[Read more]

Quote You got it! Jesus has a lot of worshipers!Yes He does, including His disciples!

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 23 2013,16:29)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 23 2013,13:32)Keith…touche'!Very well put Thanks KathiI feel I owe you an apology from my last discourse with you but I haven't been around here until now.I remember being a little harsh and ask for your forgiveness.Blessings WJForgiven! Thank you

Right on Keith. Last I looked, men do not have the same nature as a cow. The term 'cow' is an identity of sorts but within the cow barn, Old Betsie the cow is a different identity than Old Maggie, another cow, yet they are equally both cows. They both have the same strengths and weaknesses, generally speaking if they are both healthy. They both…[Read more]

Hi 2besee,It doesn't appear that you have ever considered that YHVH is one corporate/compound unity with each member also called YHVH. Have you just assumed that YHVH is a name for one…one person?Do you realize the Israel is a compound unity of the sons of Israel + Jacob who is called Israel?So, with Israel as an example…Israel is a name of…[Read more]

Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 23 2013,12:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2012,01:57)I agree with you William and I am glad that we agree together on the Nicene Creed and both understand the word 'catholic' as meaning universal and not Roman Catholic. I'm not sure, but I think that there are currently maybe four of us active here on HN that agree with the…[Read more]

Quote So the dog(nature) Spot(identity) begets the dog(nature) Rover(identity).Is Rover less Dog than Spot? That is as easy as I can make it Mike. Can't help you see it more than that. Yes Keith, that is pretty easy to understand! Nice one!!

Keith…touche'!Very well put

Bo,He did appear to a non-believing Jew…Paul.

Numbers 21:2And Israel vowed a vow to the LORD and said, “If you will indeed give this people into my hand, then I will devote their cities to destruction.”Here a compound unity called “Israel” uses singular pronouns such as 'my' and 'I.'

So, Mike, when you say all other things were created through Jesus, then you must admit that all other things were not directly created by the Father. Do you see that?

Mike,Didn't you say that the Father only directly created one thing?

Bo,you asked:Quote I guess you missed my point, If I told you I was a prophet how would you know it was true unless a prophecy of mine came true during my life and more explicitly during your life if the prophecy was told to you?If you only declared one prophecy and didn't declare it to happen in yours or my lifetime, then I wouldn't know but that…[Read more]

Hi 2besee,What Mike said in the above post on the top of this page, ultimately amounts to saying that Jesus directly created all things and the Father indirectly created all things. Mike thinks that Jesus is the only thing that the Father directly created even though the Bible says that Jesus is the only 'begotten' (not created) Son, not the only…[Read more]