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    Mike did you see that I bolded that part about the Father too? And the part about the Son? Then mentioned all three?I addressed Acts 3:13 already.

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    If you don't know Mike, then you should stop acting like you do when you say Jesus did not create one thing.

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    T,I believe you are right regarding the meaning of creation…making something that does not exist.Perhaps God the Father made the building blocks of creation and Jesus put them together in different shapes, i.e. beasts, cattle, fish, dry land, stars, sun, man, etc.Have you ever taken a bunch of Legos out of the new box and it was just a pile of…[Read more]

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    Bo, Thank you for the compliment, may God always be with you too. I appreciate you in this thread because you are being very respectful…I'm very thankful. I am concerned about your beliefs though because by denying the literal sonship, death, and resurrection, you deny some main truths which seem to be paramount to salvation. You probably…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 28 2013,19:40)Read it more closely, Kathi.  The one you bolded “proceedeth from the Father “, and is “with the Father and the Son”.So you are saying that the Holy Spirit, who proceeds forth from the Father and the Son, is the creator of all things.  But that's not what you meant to say, is it?Anyway, the part I bolded is t…[Read more]

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    Bo,Quote Flesh and Bone? Are you serious? Bone and Flesh are vivified by blood. Remember the LIFE is in the BLOOD. No Blood no LifeEarthly life is in the blood. There is life beyond earth but I don't see any evidence of blood in heavenly beings. I don't think we need our blood for eternal life, Bo. Jesus gave His blood for our trespasses.

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    2besee,Jesus is not also the Holy Spirit…Jesus is filled with the Holy Spirit though. See these verses:Acts 8:14Now when the apostles at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent to them Peter and John, 15who came down and prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit, 16for he had not yet fallen on any of…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,22:06)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 25 2013,10:07)Acts 5:30The God of our fathers raised Jesus, whom you killed by hanging him on a tree.And WHO, exactly, was the “God of our fathers”, Kathi?  Was it Jesus, who they killed by hanging on a tree?  Or was the Father, who raised Jesus?My God is the God of the “fathers”, K…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 26 2013,21:31)So “the Holy Ghost” is the one who created all things?  Not the Father, and not Jesus?  Huh? I list all three names and you think I list only one??

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 25 2013,19:51)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 23 2013,12:57)Quote (kerwin @ Jan. 23 2013,12:32)Quote (Lightenup @ Sep. 26 2012,01:57)I agree with you William and I am glad that we agree together on the Nicene Creed and both understand the word 'catholic' as meaning universal and not Roman Catholic. I'm not sure, but I think that…[Read more]

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    2besee,You asked what version of John 1:18 I used…the NASB.

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    Quote (Wakeup @ Jan. 25 2013,11:49)Quote (Lightenup @ Jan. 26 2013,03:07)WakeupJude 1:25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.The Savior is God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Yahweh is both God and Lord. Jesus is the Lord of lords!Acts…[Read more]

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    Here Bo, read this:Acts 13:26“Brothers, sons of the family of Abraham, and those among you who fear God, to us has been sent the message of this salvation. 27For those who live in Jerusalem and their rulers, because they did not recognize him nor understand the utterances of the prophets, which are read every Sabbath, fulfilled them by c…[Read more]

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    WakeupJude 1:25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion and authority, before all time and now and forever. Amen.The Savior is God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Yahweh is both God and Lord. Jesus is the Lord of lords!Acts 5:30The God of our fathers raised Jesus, whom you killed by hanging him on a…[Read more]

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    #andthewordwaswithGodandthewordwasGod-ism#OGodthyGodhasannointedthee-ism#ourfellowshipiswiththeFatherandtheSon-ism#believeinGodbelievealsoinme-Jesus-ism#andGodsaidletUsmakemaninOurimageHasnotoneGodcreatedusGodisanUs-ism#theFatherlovestheSonandhasplacedeverythinginHishands-ism

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 3 months ago

    T8 has a problem with scriptures that mention the love that God has for the world. This must please satan very much. It is like John 3:16 didn't exist. Watch out for this guy, people. He is wanting to lead you away from the God who SO LOVED THE WORLD that He gave His only Son!John 3:16“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that w…[Read more]

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    Here is another verse where 'living God' is in the plural for each word in the Hebrew yet 'voice' is singular as well as the verb 'speaking'.Deut 5:26For who of all flesh is he who hath heard the voice of the living God speaking out of the midst of the fire like us — and doth live?

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    #JesusisGodtoowiththeFathertogetherwiththeirSpirittheyareYAHWEHasGodofgodsandLordoflords:;):

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    Lightenup replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 13 years, 3 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Jan. 24 2013,17:16)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 25 2013,02:46)If Jesus is “a god” and he has all power on earth then that means he is the God of this world!WJIncorrect.The Earth is not the world.Satan is not the God of this Earth, he is the god of this age.When this age comes to a close, then the Earth will be the way it was meant to…[Read more]

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    I just came across Jeremiah 10:10 which has 'living' in the plural next to 'elohim' which is in the plural and the 'He' which is singular:But Yahweh is the true God; he is the living God, and an everlasting King: at his wrath the earth trembles, and the nations are not able to withstand his indignation.Here is what John Gill has to say about…[Read more]

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