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    Mike,

    You said:

    Every heavenly son of God is “God’s own son”.

    Please provide scriptures that call any son an only begotten Son of God.

     You said:

    None of us will EVER become a part of Jesus OR a part of his and our God, Yahweh.

    Wrong!

    1 Cor 12 27Now you are Christ’s body, and individually parts of it.

    Also, there is no scripture that clearly…[Read more]

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    @Proclaimer

    Third time reposted for your convenience, please answer:

    Proclaimer,

    You said:

    You either believe or you don’t. Fine.
    So, what do YOU proclaim, Proclaimer? Do you think that God could produce a “biological” son, one that comes through some sort of an asexual reproductive process and in that manner the son is the actual, liter…[Read more]

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    @Proclaimer

    reposted for your convenience, please answer:

    Proclaimer,

    You said:

    You either believe or you don’t. Fine.
    So, what do YOU proclaim, Proclaimer? Do you think that God could produce a “biological” son, one that comes through some sort of an asexual reproductive process and in that manner the son is the actual, literal offsp…[Read more]

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    Amen, Berean!

    May God bless you with increased understanding as you continue to seek the Father and the Son and their Spirit!!

    LU

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    Thank you Berean, you understand. Jesus is a son of God in the highest, truest sense begotten before the ages. He is unique as a son compared to any other entity that has been identified as a son of God in some other manner. He is the only begotten Son of God as Jesus, Himself tells us in John 3:16:

    16“For God so loved the world, that He gave His…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    You said:

    Satan, of course.  Just like every single commentator on this page (including Barnes and Gill) believes.

    Do they also believe that Jesus was created?

    See how you want to make another ridiculous point.

    Do you think that the true Light that entered the world has some people blinded?

     

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    Mike,

    You asked:

     Yes or No, please.

    Yes. Not the same part though. There is the “them” part and the “us” part. The Father and Son are of the “US” and the followers of Christ are to be part of the “them.”

    There is an “us” and a “them”…a “we” and a “they.” There will always be an “us” and a “them.” Those in the “US” group are desiring to be a…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    This is also a ridiculous question of yours:

    You asked:

     Who is right, Kathi?  Proclaimer or the Bible?

    The answer has nothing to do with us both having the same concern about your teaching.  If we have different views of what passage abc means, it is ridiculous to extrapolate that as a reason we couldn’t both be concerned about what yo…[Read more]

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    Another ridiculous comment from you, Mike:

    You asked:

     Are we told anything otherwise about Adam that we aren’t also told about Jesus?

    How about this…

    Gen 2:7 Then the LORD God formed man from the dust of the ground and breathed the breath of life into his nostrils, and the man became a living being.

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    Mike,

    You said:

    You say he is a PART of that God .

    So does Jesus.

    John 17:20   …You, Father, are in Me, and I am in You.

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    Mike,

    You ask:

    2.  And is Jesus the Son OF the God that you worship and serve as the Creator of heaven, earth, sea, and all that is in them?

    I worship both the Father and the Son as the creator of heaven and earth, sea, and all that is in them.

    Rev 5

    13And I heard every creature in heaven and on earth and under the earth and in the sea, and al…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    You said:

    No scripture ever mentions “biological son” in reference to Jesus and God.

    That is an example of one of your ridiculous arguments that you think should actually be made.

    A son, by default is a biological offspring of the parent. That should be your assumption unless told otherwise. The term “biological son” isn’t used of any son…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    You asked:

    Can you see the similarities?

    I see two people here that have given you a lot of their time trying to help you and we are both telling you similar things. Maybe you should ask YHVH if there is any truth to it instead of just dismissing it.

    Today the pastor was sharing about how he was planning on doing something in ministry…[Read more]

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    1.  KATHI, WHO EXACTLY IS THE “GOD” THAT YOU WORSHIP AND SERVE AS THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN, EARTH, SEA, AND ALL THAT IS IN THEM?
    YAHWEH, THE GOD OF GODS AND THE LORD OF LORDS.

    Mike, who exactly do you think is the theos of this age that blinds the mind of the unbelievers?

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    Mike,

    To sum up all your posts today, you don’t believe that the only begotten God, Jesus, shares the name of YHVH. I do. That very point is blinding you to the gospel of God. In that way, the God of this age (Peter’s righteous God and Savior, Jesus Christ) has blinded you. This is not so different to  the light came into the world and some…[Read more]

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    Gene,

    There is a manner in which Jesus is the only begotten Son. It wasn’t from the dead. He was the only begotten Son that was the only begotten son who existed before he was sent into the world and therefore before he died. 

    What is that son’s name, Gene?

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    Mike,

    You said:

    The English word “angel” refers to a messenger who is also a supernatural spirit son of God.  Jesus is exactly that.  It’s just that in the Bible, they are called “messengers” and “gods” – not ever “angels”.

    Not so…

    Strong’s Concordance
    aggelos: an angel, messenger
    Original Word: ἄγγελος, ου, ὁ
    Part of Speech: Noun, Masculin…[Read more]

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    Mike,

    First question:

    Yes.

    Second question:

    Yes, if the angel is also “the Word” that was with God in the beginning.

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    @GeneBalthrop

    reposted for your convenience Gene, please answer this:

    Gene,

    Please tell us what is the name of the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON referred to here as spoken by Jesus:

    John 3:16

    For God so loved the world that He gave the only begotten Son, so that everyone believing in Him should not perish, but should have eternal life.17For God did not…[Read more]

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    @Proclaimer

    reposted for your convenience, please answer:

    Proclaimer,

    You said:

    You either believe or you don’t. Fine.
    So, what do YOU proclaim, Proclaimer? Do you think that God could produce a “biological” son, one that comes through some sort of an asexual reproductive process and in that manner the son is the actual, literal offsp…[Read more]

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