• Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    @jodi

    Hi Jodi,

    You: Carmel, it’s just absolute foolishness, pure idiotic mythology to tell me that Jesus was being tempted by some wicked fallen angel in the wilderness.

    Me: I was very surprised and disappointed to read this comment.
    The Bible clearly teaches that Satan is a real person.
    Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came t…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    In reply to post #945628, not once did you align the passages Isa 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-4; Zech 8:20-23; Zech 9:9-10; Zech 14:16 to the NT.

    Where in the NT does it state in the last days “The mountain of the house of the Lord Will be established as the chief of the mountains, And will be raised above the hills; And all the nations will s…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi

    Your response to me:

    You to a post to Gene or Carmel said, “Answer me, how can Jesus be the “root” of Jesse/David/Solomon when both Matthew and Luke claim Jesus was conceived of the spirit? In order for Jesus to be a descendant of David, his father would have be a direct descendant of David; yet, he was conceived of the spirit. Hon…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    I did read what you wrote in the original post; I wasn’t going to spend the time commenting on your experience in your youth with the WWCG or derivative. What was given to Moses was for the Jews and not for the rest of the world. Your personal study experiences and what you found are very similar to mine and didn’t feel any commentary was…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    This is in response to post #945224, finally have a moment to respond; sorry you are offended by saying to read the prophets of God. To also say, “sounds to me like once again you are speaking through assumptions that are false.” Explain how reading what the prophets wrote is speaking through false assumptions?

    You must remember, up unt…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    @jodi

    Hi Jodi,

    Thanks for your interpretation of Philippians 2.
    I have to think about that.

    What I can say is that I agree that Jesus became the Anointed One at his baptism.
    Otherwise we are making a mockery out of this great event.
    I don’t want to be in that camp any longer.

    Matthew 3:16-17
    And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    @jodi

    Hi Jodi,

    I try to be more specific.
    (Please bear with me because English is not my native language)

    I have to admit that I see for the first time that the context
    of John 3:16 is speaking of God giving His Son at the crucifixion.
    I always thought that John 3:16 is speaking of the incarnation.
    Well, I was wrong.
    I take back what I said…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    @jodi

    Hi Jodi,

    Thanks.
    I agree with most of your teachings.
    Jesus accomplished his mission with the help of God’s spirit.
    I totally agree with that.
    But the major difference is that I believe that Jesus was God’s Son BEFORE He came to earth as a man.
    There are some pre-existence Bible verses that shows that.
    For example John 8:58.
    Maybe you…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    @Jodi

    You

    John in chapter 1

    speaks to this WORD,

    speaks to this MAN that was in the Word from the beginning,

    Me

    NO, NO AND NO

    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
    The same was in the beginning with God.
    All things were made 👉by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

     
    👉By…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    @jodi

    Hi Jodi,

    The pre-existence of Jesus Christ is very important.
    God gave us something that He already had and His love for us was shown in that act of giving.
    John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
    If He gave us His Son, He then…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    We can continue to debate what we believe is truth and write long explanations trying to prove our side of the “truth”; but the bottom line is what does the OT say about the Messiah; who will he be and what will he do when he arrives, does this match the Messiah of the NT? If you have found a passage to support the NT Messiah in the OT,…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    In response to Post # 944770

    Absolutely we read of God’s forgiveness to the Israelite’s; but don’t forget it wasn’t just to the Israelite’s, it extended to the other nations and people too. Wasn’t it God who said the HE delights when the wicked turn from their ways? And when the “wicked man” turns from wickedness and does what is just an…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    You say I was brought up in a church full of lies; which “denomination”, which “church”, which “faith” has it correct? Where exactly should I go to be taught? If you say the spirit leads and teaches, we have a problem because everyone believes something different and all claiming it’s of the “spirit.”

    In John 2:22 the disciples believe…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,
    My persistence is a demand for truth, I am finding I have wasted 40 years following doctrines of man and not what God said. This isn’t the X-Files where “the truth is out there” as we argue over our interpretation of the bible; God told us HIS simple truth and we need to stop complicating what HE said.

    Jonah is a prime example; Jesus made…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of DesireTruth

    @Jodi,

    Thank you for answering my question of who is speaking where…finally! I will respectfully disagree with your interpretation of who is speaking in Isa 53:1-9 (don’t include verse 10 in this dialogue, verse 10 belongs with 11-12). If you are going to say Isaiah is prophesying what the apostles are going to say speaking of the crucified o…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    @Jodi

    You

    AFFIRMATION is right here in the below passages.

    Jesus was baptized/Matthew 3 and 20, Mark 1 and 10.
    Jesus was born of God’s Spirit/Isaiah 11, 42, 61, Luke 3 and 4, Matt 3, John 1 and 3, Mark 1 and 10, 1 John 3, Ephes 5:9, Cor 12, Roman 8

    Me

    And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, t…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Berean

    @Jodi 

    “Quand Jésus a été baptisé, il est alors né de l’Esprit de Dieu où il a été appelé à la justice et ne pouvait pas pécher. Il est mort mais a ensuite été ressuscité après avoir reçu l’Esprit de Dieu.” 

    Me

    I’m sorry, no scripture AFFIRM this.

    🙏

  • Profile picture of Berean

    @Jodi

    “If Jesus was without sin, then he wouldn’t need to be baptized and he most certainly wouldn’t need to be called to righteousness.”

    Me

    For he (God) hath made him (Jesus) to be sin for us, 👉who knew no sin; 👈that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. (Jesus)  (2Corinthians 5:21)

    This verse sums up EVERYTHING GOD HAS DONE FOR…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Proclaimer

    @Jodi

    I am prepared to stand corrected and I am on this forum to test my understanding with those of others and see who is providing the best scriptural support to their belief. The best scriptural support is going to be the closest to the truth,

    Hi.

    How do you deal with this scripture without writing an essay and skirting the issue?

    John…[Read more]

  • Profile picture of Danny Dabbs

    @t8 @genebalthrop @berean @Lightenup @Jodi @carmel

    Here’s an argument by William Carpenter from the year 1885:

    If the Earth were a globe, there certainly would be—if we could imagine the thing to be peopled all round—“antipodes:” “people who,” says the dictionary, “living exactly on the opposite side of the globe to ourselves, have their feet op…[Read more]

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