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    Hi Nick,

    You said, “Man is a vessel designed to house the Spirit of God but capable of housing evil too.”

    I understand it like this,

    A man houses the Spirit of God because that Spirit has been written into the man’s heart/his mind, as his spirit knows God and loves God and is committed to following God. Through God’s Spirit working in our…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick

    Jesus was a human with a human spirit. What I am saying is that man needs God’s Spirit working in the human spirit in order to be righteous. Jesus didn’t follow his own will, his spirit through the gifts of the Spirit followed God’s will.

    Are we puppets, are we mere vessels, or are we a created creature that can LEARN to FOLLOW God? He…[Read more]

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    Hi Ed J,

    You said, “The spirit of Christ that came from eternity was born in Bethlehem. (Micah 5:2)”

    God promised to bring eternal life to man before He created the worlds, and He had a plan before He created, of which Paul teaches was in fact the coming of two Adams, two human beings. Later He revealed to the prophets that He would raise up a…[Read more]

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    Jodi replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 7 years, 9 months ago

    t8,

    Without the work of God’s Spirit in Jesus, Jesus would have never been perfected. TRUE or FALSE?

    Without that perfection we would still be in our sins, and thus there would be no hope of eternal life. TRUE or FALSE?

    If there is no hope in eternal life all that are dead are not sleeping but are dead forever, and those that are alive there f…[Read more]

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    AndrewAD,

    24 And the Pharisees said unto him, Behold, why do they on the sabbath day that which is not lawful? 25 And he said unto them, Have ye never read what David did, when he had need, and was an hungred, he, and they that were with him? 26 How he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and did eat the shewbread,…[Read more]

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    AndrewAD,

    I would also like to address the following,

    “Yes the preexistence of Jesus Christ makes no sense if he became the Son of God or Christ at his baptism, so it stands to reason that his baptism was only his inauguration into his public ministry. If Jesus were sinless what need had he to be born again or baptized?”

    I am not sure where to…[Read more]

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    AndrewAD, Good Morning, please consider the full passage of Mark when understanding verse 24.

    You said, “it’s right after his baptism in Mark 1:24 the demons cry out- “Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.” How did they recogniz…[Read more]

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    Hi Gene,

    You are right, if I am posting scriptures thinking they’ve just got to read this one and that one,  and maybe the light would finally switch on, I’d probably be just waisting my time. The truth be told, as you said, it has greatly benifited me. The word of God and His plan and promises have become so much more engrained into my heart…[Read more]

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    Hi Nick,

    No worries, I’m pretty wordy lol!! I always say to myself I will make this a brief post, but that doesn’t seem to happen.

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    Yes Nick that is what I have repeatedly said from the beginning. Not sure what you read from me that you misinterpreted.

     

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    Good Morning LU,

    I hope you read through the scriptures in my lasts posts, and give a reply as to how they fit into your theology.

    Please also consider this passage,

    Acts 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

    25 Neither is worshipped with men’s…[Read more]

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    LU,

    The below scriptures prove that you could not be more wrong, do you dare to read them????????

    PLEASE LU READ below and respond!!

    Romans 8: 10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

    The Father is master over all, it is His Spirit that both made and appointed Jesus as our…[Read more]

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    LU you said,  1 cor 15:47 … the second man is the Lord from heaven. This fits with my theology perfectly.”

    Yes you sure are denying scripture, you have pulled this verse and taken it out from the surrounding text to make it fit into your pagan doctrine, and seem to blatantly ignore other scriptures.

    You have not applied what the word says bot…[Read more]

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    Good Morning LU,

    I think you must have missed practically everything that I have posted, lol.

    Have I not talked about God’s plan from the beginning?

    Have I not talked about the promises that God gave the prophets?

    Have I not quoted 1 Corinthians 15 several times, and also quoted Romans 5!!

    Have you bothered to read 1 Corinthians 15 or R…[Read more]

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    Hi Anthony,

    I greatly appreciate your candor, and like I said before, I get why you would think that certain scriptures do seem to sound like Jesus pre-existed. There is a lot of scriptures to review to make sure you are putting certain other passages into a truthful context.

    If you want to keep an open mind, then attempt to read every passage…[Read more]

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    Yes of course he is also called the son of God Anthony, and we are told exactly WHY, but you seem to want to flat out deny this! The FACT that he is ALSO STILL called the son of man, as in reference to when he RETURNS to earth, should in and of itself make you question your pagan theology. He is returning as a MAN, who will be a master over his…[Read more]

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    Jeremiah 23:1 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD. 2 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.

    3 And I…[Read more]

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    Good Morning Anthony,

    You said, “common logic has to come in to this all. One of my thoughts is this. For Jesus to be just a man, He would had to be born by Joseph and Mary but he wasn’t. If He had been born just with 50% of Mary’s DNA the(xx) Gene. And God done the other half with(yx) Gene. Jesus wouldn’t be without spot of sin. he would be bl…[Read more]

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    Anthony’s scriptures with mine added

    Colossians 2:9 ESV

    For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily,

    In him is the man of the seed of David

    1 Corinthians 11: 7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.

    2 Corinthians 4: 4 In whom the god of th…[Read more]

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    Hi LU,

    When you speak about whose spiritual father was that of Jesus before his baptism, I need you to provide a scripture, so I know what you are talking about.

    As far as my understanding from the scripture,  Luke tells us that Adam is a son of God, and this going down from the genealogy of Jesus from Marry and so forth until you reach Adam,…[Read more]

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