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    Nick….I was just coming from your point of view not mine. Your the one who thinks by yours own choices and actions you make it , not me. I believe all will Make it because of who God the Father is, not by their own self reliance in their own ability to freely choose what right on their own. Lets don't get confused here on who saying what.

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    Nick…. the flesh is fleshly minded and the spiritual are spiritual minded, but the flesh profits nothing Jesus said. But the Spirit enders to life and Jesus words were Spirit. To view thing from a flesh stand point does not give you a spiritual standing they are not the same. One is Carnal the other is spiritual, the carnal mind genders to death…[Read more]

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    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ June 28 2008,10:21)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 28 2008,10:14)Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2008,08:43)Hi GB, Did Jesus see the carnal minds of men falling from heaven?Did the mind of carnal man take Jesus to the top of the temple?Did the carnal mind of a man enter Judas? You really should not publicly deny…[Read more]

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    Nick……..So your perception is that is that God's promises is revocable and He leaves it up to us to make all the right decisions then right, Did it ever done on you that only half of those virgins were not actually called and chosen and the unprofitable servant was always that way because he wasn't really chosen by God you can tell by how they…[Read more]

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    Nick…….I am not denying Scriptures i looking at it from a spiritual stand point, Which is something you need to start doing.

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 28 2008,08:43)Hi GB, Did Jesus see the carnal minds of men falling from heaven?Did the mind of carnal man take Jesus to the top of the temple?Did the carnal mind of a man enter Judas? You really should not publicly deny scripture.Nick…..Do you really think Satan took Jesus to a tower and showed him (all) the kingdoms…[Read more]

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    Nick…Good you understand that, now i will ask you can you loose that which you were sealed with them. While we can and do all grieve the Spirit at time, the question do we ever loose it.

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    Nick………but you don't believe we are sealed remember you imply we must do the choosing, it's up to Us to make it by our, i guess free wills, to choose to follow God. Your form of salvation was never about being sealed by the Holy Spirit of Promise was it? Because if a person is sealed, it;s impossible for him to fail right.”O” by the way…[Read more]

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    WJ….it's evident by your words you don't believe in God being the Potter and we the clay then, or that God gives men repentance, or God creates to Good works, or No man can come unto me unless the father (DRAG) him, nor He who began a work in you will see it unto completion, Nor the calling of God is without revocation, nor God works in us both…[Read more]

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    Jodi……….Amen Sister. The devil comes from within the mind of carnal men. And is received from the world. > “for all thats in the world the lust of the flesh ,the lust of the eyes, the pride of life are from the world, and the world is passing away and the lusts with it”> Man is infected with this from berth , much like a virus infects people…[Read more]

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    Quote (Not3in1 @ June 28 2008,01:03)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ June 27 2008,17:53)But men deceive themselves by this idea of a “FREE WILL” , so they don't see it was all planned and foreknown before it ever happened.Bro Gene,With all due respect, what a boring world this would be to manage and observe if God already knew everything that would…[Read more]

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    T8…..i disagree with your assessment that Adam failed all man kind. Adam could not have done anything else but what he did, Given the nature in Him. and all the rest fail by that same nature which was given by God Himself. It was God intention for man to fall, and experience good and evil, all a long. He could have prevented it easily if He…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 27 2008,12:50)Hi GB, You are right . Jesus died for all that all may live. Sadly for some they do not follow the instructions.No new hearts on view in the world yet.Nick……..there are some who have had their hearts changed by God in this present world, all those who are chosen are given new hearts now, but the rest…[Read more]

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    DK…….Then was Peter him. Jesus called him Satan.

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    Nick……”therefore who is he that condemneth it was Christ that died “. Jesus Sacrifice Paid for all Sin not ours only But the sins of the whole world. God has concluded all Under Sin so he might have mercy on (ALL). The will and Purpose of God is to deliver all His creation from corruption thats in the world. And He will. The biggest thing to…[Read more]

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    Nick……you say the law applies (ONLY) to those who are under that law, but the kingdom is open to all men. So this isn't true then? “the gentiles who have not the Law but (do) the things contained in them, show the (Law) of God written in there Heart (by) the Hand of God.

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    DK……i believe it was God's sacrifice, doesn't it say God gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believes in Him should not parish. But it does also seam the Jesus sacrificed Himself.We are told that it pleased God (IF) he would empty out soul unto death. Why would it have pleased God, I believe because it took total trust in God, For Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ June 26 2008,18:54)Hi GM, DRAGS is a word of a man added in.Nick……why don't you lok it up and see if (MAN) added it in then. When i looked it up I found that it should mean (DRAG) instead of Draw, but either way it's still God the Father doing it, right. Not the man himself by his own so call (FREE WILL) isn't that the…

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    DK….. i think they were also, but it didn't do anything for them, It's when they recieved the Baptism of Holy Spirit that there lives began to change.peace………gene

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    Nick……..it should be better understood as teaching through preaching a preacher is also teaching at the same time he preaches. Thats why it says teaching and preaching, there the same function happening at the same time. You can't separate them from each other as you imply saying they are not the same. The ones that God has not opened there…[Read more]

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