Nick…..accusing Him of His creation that digging a big hole, NO you are the one who doesn't understand how SOVEREIGN GOD IS< thats the problem. If God didn't take responsibility for sin then He would not have sacrificed his son thats for sure. You don't understand why people gave sacrifices, it was to atone for their sins and God in a sense…[Read more]

Nick….thats symbolic language not literal there are no real dragons these are metaphor's and analogies, that God is going to put away evil influence from the earth for a time period. I told you before, read the first chapter of Rev 1:1 and where it he signified it, look up the word signified and you will find it means he (symbolized) it. You…[Read more]

Nick…..again you lie, when did i ever say i had all knowledge? Baptism has been revealed to me by scripture, it's you who can read scripture and get the meaning not me. I understand it fine. Please show us were i said i have all Knowledge let's be specific and let everyone see what a big lier you really are. My words to you are you are a false…[Read more]

Nick…it you who are deceived because you don't comprehend the sum of Gods words. What do you think the sacrifice of the Lamb was all about, was it not an offering for sin by the responsible Party. God takes full responsibility for all sin and if you don't except that then your sins remain on you. Not only does God take responsibility for all sin…[Read more]

Jodi….Amen you nailed it!love to you and yours, give the little ones a hug and kiss for me……….gene

Adam…. Doctrines of Devil's or Satan's are just false teachings that people brought into the church and they came form man not some mythical creature of some kind. Look at all the different denominations and they all think they are the true church even through they believe in all kinds of different doctrines from each other, it just pure…[Read more]

Nick…I was not addressing you , but the way i see it if anyone is not abiding in the word with understanding it would be you. I know you like to present yourself as if you are but it is oblivious to me and others your not, the only one that can't see that seems to be you. If you don't believe God gives understand to his elect then thats just…[Read more]

Wj….what you said about the pron thing has nothing to do with correction, that would just feed their lusts, and cause then to learn bad behavior. One would correct bad behavior the other would cause bad behavior. Big difference. But both would effect a carnal mind except one positively and one negatively. Fear can be used as a dertourant to sin…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ July 09 2008,10:04)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ July 09 2008,09:38)WJ….read the last part of Job, it plainly say God brought all this evil on Job, if you notice it wasn't even Satan who brought the subject of Job, is was God , have you considered my servant Job, God planned the whole thing from start to finish.WJ… when my…[Read more]

Nick…..if you get the oringial hebrew where it say God created (pastense) you will find it should read, GOD creating them is in His image, shows a process taking place, we know the only one who ever was in his image was Jesus the first completed image of God , we all will become that image also until we all come to the image of Christ who is the…[Read more]

WJ….read the last part of Job, it plainly say God brought all this evil on Job, if you notice it wasn't even Satan who brought the subject of Job, is was God , have you considered my servant Job, God planned the whole thing from start to finish.WJ… when my son was around 10 he and a friend He played with were getting more into violent playing…[Read more]

To all….GRACE is God influencing our hearts to do his will, and without it we would all fail. 'for we are all saved by GRACE and That (NOT) of ourselves, it is a Gift of GOD>to all his children.peace to you all…..gene

WJ…..Show me (ONE) FREE WILL choice you Have made then. Let talk about that one FREE WILL Choice. Remember to be (FREE) means to be Free of any influences, or its not Free.FREE Will…..a human will acting spontaneously, or without external compulsion, pressure, or influence. b.. power of the human will (denied by determinists…[Read more]

WJ….the voice i heard said (I) did it for your sake Gene. Here something else maybe you saw this on TV a few months ago, On a new reel, they had this camera set up in this street in Irac more like a ally and the shells and bombs were going of all over the place and these two little girls maybe 3 or 4 years old, were there just horrified, and…[Read more]

Irene….believe me i did not follow Jodi i read a paper by Issac Newton on it and compared His writing with what i knew in scripture and found He was right in my opinion. Go to the Sir Issac Newton Project and read what He had to say on the subject. You might find it very interesting.love to you and yours…….gene

WJ….Men only chose from what already in them, that is the cause that drives there choices and there fore is NOT (FREE), FREE means something that is not affected by (ANY) influence of (ANY) kind. Mans WILL is effected by whats already in Him and the is the cause that causes His choices, come on you know that. The word free will is not in…[Read more]

WJ….Satan's so to speaks kingdom is the whole earth which He deceives. For the whole earth lyes in deception. But besides , all the sickness and illness are allowed and there fore caused by God. Before you go off by what is said, let me tell you a true story.my youngest daughter had a walking problem she was born with, and when she was about 8…[Read more]

WJ…..and the word Causes is all over scripture and the oblivious result is effect. So don't give me that cause and effect is not scriptural. Here one just on of many, “For He (God) causes all thing to work together for the good of them that Love Him. I can give you a long list of cause and effects if you want and if it would convenience you.

Wj…..right and the reason is expressed in what (WORD) so look up the definition of Word and tell us what it means.

Wj….> then i geuss Jesus was lying when he said the words (ARE) Spirit. If we believe intellect comes from God then how does it come from God is it not by Spirit> Tell us How do you try Spirits then if not by words a person speaks, they proceed from the spirit in Him.