Nick…….you are transposing something said to the (CARNAL MINDED) to the Spiritual MINDED hardly fits . Jesus said the comforter or Holy Spirit would brign back into our minds his word and we are not as vulnerable as you are portraying, that is (IF) you have GODS Spirit in you. You shouldn't confuse the two covenants. IMOpeace ………..gene

Nick…..the one who has power over death is not a being external of us, as the text makes it appear, but is the Carnal Flesh that is in us all and was in Jesus also and Jesus destroyed it through the power of GOD in Him. Man dies because of his own sins , and that sin has the power of death in him, not that of some other creator called the devil.…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Aug. 16 2008,21:17)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 16 2008,15:47)T8……> brown is part of and portrays what the cow is like. The cow is brown and therefore is part of the cow. The Word is an attribute of GOD and is therefore Part of Him , just as your words are attributes of you and portray who you are, Your words are not a separate…[Read more]

Lu……..there is false Knowledge and there is true knowledge while Paul was addressing false Knowledge , to imply all knowledge is false is wrong on your part, the whole of Christan's today exists in a state of (FALSE) knowledge, because of the false influences that have crept into the church over the past centuries an some of the chiefest of…[Read more]

T8……> brown is part of and portrays what the cow is like. The cow is brown and therefore is part of the cow. The Word is an attribute of GOD and is therefore Part of Him , just as your words are attributes of you and portray who you are, Your words are not a separate thing from you. Neither is God's words separate from him. Don't you think if…[Read more]

T8…..then if i were to write in Greek (the) brown Cow, or say the brown was with the cow Brown would be a proper noun to you and should be capitalized. By saying the Word, does not make it a noun it makes it a descriptor or adjective describing the Noun, not a separate being, no more then brown would be a separate being from the cow.IMO

Nick…..your extremism is not founded because you lack the understanding of How those people preconceived demons and devils during the time of Christ. Jodi has correctly explained the subject. Read it and conceder Her points and then check them out, before you begin jumping to extreme conclusions.peace…………gene

Nick…….the people of Jesus day had no idea about mental illness, and you need to remember Jesus did (NOT) write the bible but people who have some preconceived Ideas did. History plainly bears this out.They had pagan idolatrous minds they believed in demons as separate beings who went around jumping in and out of people, do you also believe…[Read more]

Nick….yes TRUTH and i do walk while the light is in me, as you should try to also.peace……….gene

Quote (Jodi @ Aug. 15 2008,17:39)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Aug. 05 2008,13:35)Hi GBQuote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 03 2008,14:05)WJ…..then why rebuke Peter then if he wasn't the one doing it. Jesus didn't say get behind me you Satan that is IN YOU Peter did He. Peter was coming from a worldly view point which was in Him , he therefore acted and…[Read more]

T8 and WJ…..the original Greek had only upper case lettering. So How can you say 'Theos', and 'theos' without constructing the text to fit an ideology of preexistences. And WJ, Jesus said that GOD the Father (WAS) greater then He. And why does it say I come to do they WILL 'O' GOD. if He is the same GOD, he would have come to do HIS OWN Will. I…[Read more]

Nick…….i Am not worried about if it attracts any admirers or not. It the truth that counts no a popularity contest. Saying everyone will ultimately be saved (YET AS BY FIRE) is not an easy way my friend to be saved in fact , its a very difficult way to be saved. The intense Judgment of God is not a easy way in fact its a very difficult way. We…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 15 2008,16:21)Hi GB, Of course the power was not from the vessel but in the vessel. But you deny his knowledge came from God rather thinking it inferior and cultural mysticism?Nick….when did i ever deny Jesus knowledge did not come from God, God did reveal many things to Jesus, but not all things, and Like i said Jesus…[Read more]

Nick……..I never said Jesus understanding about demons were primitive, but i did say in a thread that Jesus dealt with them in their understanding level and the ones relating these event certainty related them in there own understanding of that day. Read Jodi's post and think about it Nick, she posted lots of scriptures to back up her thoughts.…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 15 2008,08:49)Anyway perhaps we should look at another thread. This thread is about the universalist heresyNick………the heresy is not universal salvation the heresy is that God is going to destroy His 90% of his children in a everlasting eternal hell Fire and watch them burn for all eternity, or some how we are going…[Read more]

Nick………Are you sitting down, I'll tell you something else, JESUS HIMSELF NEVER HEALED ANYONE. And neither did the Apostles. It was GOD the Father HIMSELF that did the healing.The Father is the GREAT PHYSICIAN, and He said He gives HIS Glory to NO MAN>Jesus was a MAN>Hope i didn't upset your apple cart to much…………gene

Nick………The best explanation to this is what Jesus said about the Father, He said God is Spirit, He said the words weren't His, He said the words were Spirit and life, He said the Father was (IN) Him, He said He could do nothing by Himself, He said the Father was greater then Him, He said he came to do the Fathers Will, not His. So if we put…[Read more]

Quote (Jodi @ Aug. 15 2008,04:54)Here are some things to keep track of, -the evil spirits never leave the bodies on their OWN accord, they are cast out by Yeshua’s commands. -they FOLLOW Yeshua’s commands-those who are possessed are said to be troubled or suffering from the evil spirit-those who have the evil spirit cast out are said to be hea…[Read more]

Nick….i don't agree with fatalism much, but i do agree with DETERMINISM, which i would say better describes my position. I do believe ultimately all things were predetermined, and God works them to the Council of His OWN WILL, and for His own purposes and good pleasure. I also don't not believe in FREE WILL as Determinism states. While some of…[Read more]

LU… you maintain that 2 Pet 1:1 say's Jesus is our savior and God, Do yopu also think that 2 PET 1:2 is also referencing Jesus as GOD also, and if not why?The word (Word) is not a noun it is a descriptor and describes what was and it was with the ONLY TRUE GOD. Because just like your word describe who and what you are so does GOD's WORD…[Read more]