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    Nick…… RIGHT,just wanting to make sure your keeping things straight. And when he gives back all that authority, the Father will have (ALL) authority in His own hands and be all in all, and Jesus will be made subject to Him as everything else will also.ONE WILL IN ALL AND THROUGH ALL.peace to you ……….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Nick…..who are you in God's eyes? I am sure no more the Issac Newton , but I also believe what his findings were and so does Jodi and others, This man could read and write Latin, Greek. and Hebrew fluently and spent most of His life studying and expounding scriptures, have you? To dismiss his understand is ignorance on your part at best.…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    T8….Jesus was not the one who said (HE) saw Abraham that was what the lying Jew were trying to make him out as saying, and no where did Jesus say He was (BORN) before Abraham, your forcing the text to fit your ideology of preexistence. There is only One scripture that the debate of Jesus preexistence comes down to and that is John 1:1 and it…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Satan in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Nick…..is that right well I guess Isaac Newton was also deceived by Satan right ?, it could be your insistence of seeing everything through literal eyes might be the problem did you ever think about that?, BY saying God created a great Lucifer being who insubordinately turned against His WILL and became Known as SATAN, is to say GOD is then a…[Read more]

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    Nick……it also says the all things (excludes GOD) Right?

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Love in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Samuel………God said I will take out of you the Heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh (SOFT HEART), A soft heart is a sorrowful heart, and it says for you are sorrowed unto righteousness and again, Godly sorrow (WORKS) repentance not to be repented of. Jesus was a man of many sorrows, If God is truly with a person they will always try to…[Read more]

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    Mandy…….you are a Jew inwardly, One is not a Jew outwardly, but one is a Jew who is a Jew inwardly. That you sis. And Adam also and hopefully all of us.love to you and yours…………gene

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    Mandy…….you are a Jew inwardly, One is not a Jew outwardly, but one is a Jew who is a Jew inwardly. That you sis. And Adam also and hopefully all of us.love to you and yours…………gene

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    Nick……..were did say Jesus spoke his own words, You are again misrepresenting what i said. I said Jesus spoke GOD's words to Us Not His words. He said the words He spoke to us were (NOT) his words but the words of Him that sent Him, and Jesus is not portrayed anywhere as a MOUTHPIECE of GOD, in any text so why are you and David insisting on it…[Read more]

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    Nick……..Jesus is no (MOUTHPIECE) at all, He spoke through his own Mouth God's words to us. Please quite belittling Him as some kind of mime Catty Kathy doll or an ignorant person who only knows how to speak what someone else does, a clone of some kind. He is more then a mouthpiece, He is the very son of GOD and represents the Father to us in…[Read more]

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    Nick……….If you can separate Jesus' words from being (SPIRIT) then please do so or if you believe a word is not the expression of one intellect then please show us your logic then. Fact you cannot separate Spirit from ones Intellect its impossible. If we are to try the Spirits what are we trying if not the words a person speaks. It doesn't…[Read more]

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    Nick………And David….> the word mouthpiece is not in the bible at least in the KJ. You need to read the complete thing from Ex 4:10-16 and you will not find the word Mouthpiece mentioned once. Again you both are forcing the text. In fact everyone should read the whole text listed and you might all be surprised what God creates , like the…[Read more]

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    David……..your dictionary is wrong if they meant the same thing why are there the two word to express it then. The scriptures show Mouth peace was because Moses had a speech impediment of some kind. If they were the exact same word then why are both used in the same sentence in scripture then. Its like thy sins and thy iniquities many think…[Read more]

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    Nick……> Moses complained to GOD that he was not good at speaking so that is was why God said Aron would be his mouthpiece. Your lack of scriptural understand just keeps coming out. Jesus did not have a speech impairment as Moses said He did. To say Jesus is GOD”S mouthpiece is to imply God has a impediment and is disrespectful of the Father as…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 1:1 in the forum Scriptural Teachings 18 years ago

    Irene…..I am not trying to be disrespectful, but the issue of Jesus' preexistences has been heavily debated for centuries by Scholars, the reason being there is (NO) (SPECIFIC) Statement of Jesus' preexistences. There is inference but no (absolute) statement or there would not be the heavy debating on the subject as has been over the centuries.…[Read more]

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    David …..>I never said Jesus was a mouthpiece that was Nicks understanding of what i said not my words. I know full well Jesus was the spokesman of GOD. Jesus plainly said that the Father told him what to say and How to even say it. The whole thing of Nicks mouthpiece was an effort by Nick to put me down, as he has done with others also, Just…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years ago

    David ……But God is not a man and He has determined everything, and set the limits of all things He never turned it over to man did He. Man functions within the parameters God has set in place. Man is not the captain of His destiny. God is in control of all things or how could only His will would be done then. peace……..Gene

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    WJ….You are obviously missing the part where Paul said the good that he would do he did not do but the evil he would not do that he did do, and called himself a wretched Man, whats your commit on that , And also John said if we say we have no sin we are liars and the truth is not in us.

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years ago

    Nick……..this thread is about Determinism, Act2:23…>” Him being delievered by the (Determinate) council and Foreknowledge of GOD”. Determinism is definitely the plan of God. IMOpeace……….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Determinism in the forum Truth or Tradition 18 years ago

    Nick……..to say the Spirit is not the mind is to say the spirit produces no intellect and then would be worthless to anyone. Your lack of understanding about what Spirit is prevents you from seeing clearly, from seeing that God's Spirit is the mind of God and the Spirit is the source of our words which it is our intellect and reveals the…[Read more]

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