Nick……..in you ignorance you do not realize Newton did not disagree with Jesus nor do I or Jodi, it you ignorance of what Jesus meant that the problem not Jesus' or our words. You trying to make a case as we being against Christ is Just wrong , it's just your perceptions of what Jesus said were disagreeing with. You are looking at every thing…[Read more]

DK….Human are beings have a Spirit. the Spirit in them is not a being. There are bodies that contain spirit but the spirit in the body is no a being, it is and intellect. Jesus said when an unclean spirit leaves and man (IT) not he, goes about in arid places seeking a place to rest . Notice why is it going around seeking a place to rest,?…[Read more]

Nick….your constant discrediting remarks only show you lack of intelligence , if you have some thing to offer as proof of what I have or Newton or Jodi say please present it or else keep your false accusations to yourself, I think we would all appreciate it. Your only showing your ignorance by you doing that. IMOpeace………gene

Nick………No Jesus and me and Newton and Jodi are not plagued by falsehoods, it's you lack of understanding thats plaguing you through.. IMOpeace ……….gene

Nick……..i see no contradiction's in Newtons wisdom i agree with his findings and i think if you truly read and investigated his work on demons you would might change you mind also. Jodi also gave you some excellent things to conceder and i believe i have also. But you as well as i draw from what understanding we have. IMOpeace………..gene

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 25 2008,08:03)Hi, The will of God for those to be saved relates to their response to His Son.John 6:40And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.Nick…….Jesus also said (NO MAN) can come unto me…[Read more]

Oxy……the Glory Jesus had with the Father was the foreordained Glory He would recieve not something He actually had before he was ever born on earth, as some would want you to believe. Jesus was foreordained as Peter said that means he did not preexist as a being until he was born on earth.peace brother…….gene

Quote (gollamudi @ Aug. 26 2008,20:08)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Aug. 20 2008,02:50)Nick………right God the Father does Share His Spirit and that's the spirit that is in us and Jesus.Hi brothers Nick and Gene, thanks for that explanation on Holy Spirit which is none but the same Spirit of God that was also in Jesus and has been given to us to…[Read more]

To All……..thanks for the concern, I do believe Jesus was certanly in the plan and will of God before the foundations of the world was ever made. But as far as his existence outside of that plan and will i do not, and that plan and will included GOD Creating another ADAM, who was born at the right time for that specific purpose GOD created Him…[Read more]

WJ….when did is say i know more the Jesus did, you are again expressing the spirit of the accuser as Nick does at times. I will try to answer you questions. Let me start with Jesus and His experience with the so-called devil, First it's not just unclean spirits (intellects) that are Evil, but many spirits (intellects) are , the spirit of greed,…[Read more]

To ALl…….the whole concept of devils and demons jumping in and out of people as some creature is pure trash. Good and Evil are intellects (SPIRITS) and they are everywhere the is life, When we are drawn by our lusts to the evil and learn from it, it will effect our behavior , It doesn't take some being to cause it, the whole world is full of…[Read more]

Nick…..you and WJ ignorance is you don't understand what the meaning of Spirit is. You keep thinking spirits are beings of some kind when in fact they are intellects expressed through words. And good and evil intellects are everywhere, and while they do and can control our behavior, the concept of these intellects as separate individuals…[Read more]

Pulivarthy……….If it is so clear why has it been argued for centuries then. I have not found it clearly stated in any bible i have read. You can not make the point that Jesus preexisted without adding to the text some conjecture and that to me is forcing the text to say something it does not specifically say. Not to mention there would be no…[Read more]

Nick….well, then please explain it to us then, If you know what he meant. How can Satan cast out Satan give us your explanation. To believe without understanding is stupidity and I really don't think my master wants me to believe that way, maybe yours does.peace……..gene

T8…..> according to Jeff Benners Mechanical translation of Genesis, the name of Lord in Hebrew is (HE EXISTS) And if we add Elohim or GOD to it we come up with Lord God or HE EXISTS WITH POWERS. This would be the correct way of understanding the LORD GOD> T8, You saying Jesus meant that in the new testament is pure conjecture on your part. When…[Read more]

Nick….truth is truth no matter who speaks it right? Newton was not contrary to Jesus teachings at all He just understood them better then you do. IMO.

Nick…. In fact how could Satan cast out Satan if Satan was one being as you suppose he is. Can He do the same thing at once or is it possible there are lots of Satan's and as a result they could cast out each other. So who are all the Satan's then, They are the people themselves. Jesus was simply responding to their beliefs in devils and Satan…[Read more]

T8….I know the Pharisees were trying to trap Jesus by trying to make Him mean things he did really say, and this was just another attempt to do that. But Jesus did not say He was alive before Abraham did He and if He was why did he Just not say that then, Trying to us the i am thing as proof text is forcing you theologies i believe T8. We may…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Aug. 28 2008,16:34)Hi GB, Do you think that because Jesus was foreordained that precludes any other discussion as to his origins?Nick……..Yes it does preclude it because to be foreordained does not imply preexistence at all, but shows a future existence not a past one. We are said to be foreknown can we say then we have…[Read more]

T8….> here is a good example of what i am talking about, remember when Jesus told i believe Mary or Martha this, “did i not tell you that if you believed you would see the glory of God” NOTICE now what he immediately said after he said that, “Father i know thou doest always Hear me I (ONLY) said that, so that they might believe you have sent…[Read more]