Con….it does seem thinker is more interested in that then the truth. He tries to find some loop hole in scripture to justify the false teachings of the TRINITY, even if it means excluding all other scriptures that show what he is saying is wrong.

thinker……….Jesus has no power to answer Prayer , we pray to the FATHER in the (NAME) of Jesus , but rest assured it is the FATHER who does it, in honor of His Son and Our brother Jesus. Tell us this Jesus said we could do greater works then He did, so if i were to pray to one of us does that mean they can answer our prayers, foolish i Know,…[Read more]

JustAsking………. Welcome to the site, good to see and other (anti-Trinitarian) Here, and by the way T8 does (NOT) believe Jesus is a GOD, He is anti-trinitarian also. You logic and Point are good and right , Jesus is not and Never was a GOD. These Deluded Trinitarians are confused and constantly have to countradict themselves as well as…[Read more]

Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Jan. 09 2010,02:56)Quote (t8 @ Jan. 08 2010,09:09)They text is not in anyway saying that both are worshipped as God. Rather one as God, and the other as the lamb.And the Lamb recieves the same Glory, Honor, and Power as God!So your point is…?  WJ…….But your not (JUST) saying, Jesus recieved Glory and Honor as GOD…[Read more]

Kerwin………Chosenone's point is not that we (make) choices, it is are they (FREE) Will choices, a WILL (FREE) of influences is a Choice (FREE) of any influence it's the ONLY way a WILL can be said to be (TRULY) (FREE) . Your example of Prov 19:21 Has nothing to do with (FREE) WILL it is the WILL of Man versus GOD'S WILL> No one has yet…[Read more]

thinker………So you are accusing Jesus of Lying when he said (NO ONE) CAN come unto ME (UNLESS) the FATHER DRAW HIM. Again you are replacing GOD the FATHER with Jesus. YOU are not longer believing what Jesus Said NOR what the FATHER said “you shall have (NO) other GOD besides ME”. Doesn't anything bother you Trinitarians. I told you before…[Read more]

simply put………..Jesus said i am telling you today, you (shall) be with me in paradise. Jesus knew this because of several reasons One was His sense of Justice, When He said “we are deserving of this death, but this man did Nothing to deserve this”. And went on to say to him Lord remember me when thy comest into your Kingdom. Jesus did (NOT)…[Read more]

Nick………..No boasting just truth , which you seem to have problems with. IMO

Georg………First of all I do not believe in SPIRIT (BEINGS) , except GOD HIMSELF. I believe (BEINGS) HAVE SPIRIT (IN) THEM. And that can Be GOD ALSO, as Jesus Did. Jesus is (NOT) mow a SPIRIT “BEING”, he has flesh and bone (not flesh and blood) He is still son of Man and this body he now has was the same as His resurrected Body. We have no…[Read more]

thinker……….Did Justice require GOD to given Him HIS HOLY SPIRIT also? Does Justice require GOD to give us His spirit also, or is it the LOVE of GOD that does it. Your pushing Jesus ahead of equal to GOD the Father is in error, Jesus is a recipient of GOD'S LOVE , just as we are also. No difference , for GOD is NOT Partial nor is He a…[Read more]

Nick……..Who said it was a hurricane , I was only showing your false conclusion as a wind does not have force, The GRACE of GOD has Force also , Just as GOD used His creative (FORCE) to create everything in existence, He also uses it to create rightiousness, in us. “For you are (created unto good Works”. Nick……….You just preaching your…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 08 2010,09:10)G, You take to yourself the job of arbiter of sacred scripture? But you are not yet abiding in the Word of God? Let others do so till you find your feet.Nick………How do you know that  i am or not abiding in, scripture,  Just because you lack understanding does not mean i or others DO. I think you are t…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 08 2010,09:02)G, Satan took Jesus to various places including the top of the temple offering him many worldly things in return for worship. Every son of Adam begins life in the realm of Satan and only Jesus can give them freedom.Nick……..Wrong , the spirit lead Jesus into the wilderness and He was tempted by (an…[Read more]

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 08 2010,08:58)G, You are not the expert to explain matters to novices like me because you cannot abide in scripture.Nick………Some body needs to , because you sure don't seem to be getting what scriptures mean on your own. But it does take the (SPIRIT) INTELLECT of TRUTH to understand them. And if you did you would…[Read more]

Nick………If that's is not a scramble of ignorance i don't know what is. Listen because you lack understand of what I said in no way makes it invalid, to me your understanding is that of a novice, or you could easily understand what i have written, But you still have not left the doctrine of Preexistence much less the Doctrine about devils and…[Read more]

Nick………if that is not a scramble of ignorance i don't know what is. Listen because you lack understand of what I said in no way makes it invalid, to me your understanding is that of a novice, or you could easily understand what i have written, But you still have not left the doctrine of Preexistence much less the Doctrine about devils and…[Read more]

thinker…………Paul did not say He (preexisted before his berth) that is you trinitarian addition, in fact if you look up the word existed you will find it is (existing) present tense , not a past tense as (existed) would imply. Check it out.

WJ……….So then what are we, are we not the same as He is. We are both son of Man and Son of GOD also , it we have the FATHER SEED in US we are His SONS and DAUGHTERS, (NOW), as John SAID. Why do you TRINITARIANS,and PREEXISTENCES, CONTINUALLY TRY TO SEPARATE JESUS FROM OUR (EXACT) IDENTITY. Changing the MAN Jesus into very GOD is IDOLATRY WJ.

Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 07 2010,17:12)G, We do not need your add ons.The wind does not force anything but empowers.Thinking is transformed by feeding on the living Word.Jesus indeed spoke the words of God enlivened by the Spirit. Many assume they speak for God when they express their own thoughts.Nick………So when you see the wind move leaves…[Read more]

Quote (banana @ Jan. 07 2010,13:09)Quote (Gene @ Jan. 06 2010,23:53)Georg………”when the SON OF MAN returns will he find FAITH on the EARTH”. There are more that say He is still Son of MAN. That would make him a human being right?GeneNo it would not.Jesus was both; he was the son of God because God gave him life, brought him into existence.He…[Read more]