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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 6 months ago

    Terraricca………..Self salvation by your so-called “FREE WILL” Choices is a myth it does not exist and never did. No scripture supports you hypotheses. Most believe that but as you say that is the wide GATE most choose to believe, but scripture disagree with that false teaching. There exist no such thing a (FREE) Will only (INFLUENCED) WILLS…[Read more]

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    Nick……..None of Us submits all the time even Paul could not, you know that, Nor you or me all the time , we fail in may ways, but we do not give up , we get up and still strive to overcome our carnal nature because God's Spirit is driving us onward to reach that goal. We are to (GROW IN GRACE AND KNOWLEDGE) and I believe we are, as we struggle…[Read more]

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Jan. 27 2009,14:34)GB, You said this in another thread” I and not admitting no wrong the Spirit is the (MIND) INTELLECT that Jesus Had in Him.” Nobody seems to share this strange idea about the amazing Spirit of God. But being alone and away from scriptural truth is not a problem for you?Nick………”LET THIS (MIND) BE IN YOU…[Read more]

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    Terraricca………It is interesting how you spend you time trying to make me appear wrong, Produce you proof for what you accuse me of, or is that just your PRIDE coming OUT. You have my Posts now instead of Just mouthing off,  Prove them wrong , give us the answers then to the subject matter being discussed.  Creating devision is an operation o…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 09 2010,05:21)gene here is another scripture for you to see;My teaching is not Mine, but His who sent Me. JN 7:17 “ If anyone is willing to do His will, he will know of the teaching, whether it is of God or whether I speak from Myself.”IF ANYONE IS WILLING TO DO HIS WILL(GOD)terraricca………do you see the word “FREE W…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 7 months ago

    Terraricca…………your continual twisting of what I am say is what is wrong Here , You continue to accuse and never deal with the posted Scriptures only shows your ignorance on this subject. Where have i ever said we have no responsibility for our actions, a pure lie of yours. We are held accountable for our actions. But those actions come…[Read more]

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    Nick……….the mind is the intellect center of all humans and our thoughts are what the mind consists of and that is spirit. 'LET THIS (MIND) BE IN YOU WHICH WAS IN CHRIST JESUS OUR Lord. Nick Thought which is intellect is what life Is and Spirit is Life. If thought which forms intellect in us was removed from us we would cease to exist. You…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 7 months ago

    Georg………The word “FREE” means FREE of (ANY) INFLUENCE of (ANY) KIND, either in our minds or outside them. That is why there is no Such thing as a “FREE WILL”, either GOD'S WILL or Mans Will, neither is a “FREE WILL”. We are being (CAUSED) to Chose and act by past associations. Just because we are given liberty to use our (INFLUENCED…[Read more]

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    terraricca…………Here is how you can Know what the spirit is, “The spirit bears witness with our Spirit that we are the sons of GOD.” Remember what Jesus said ” The (WORDS) i am telling you they (ARE) SPIRIT and LIFE. Now think about what is said there. Then ask yourself What a WORD (IS), it is the expression of INTELLECT, SPIRIT IS YOUR…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 7 months ago

    Quote (gollamudi @ Feb. 07 2010,14:30)Myth of Free Will :Most people say that they believe in “free will.” Do you have any idea what that means? I believe that you will find a great deal of superstition on this subject. The will is saluted as the grand power of the human soul which is completely free to direct our lives. But from what is it free?…[Read more]

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    Adam………They way Nick explained it is the way i also see it. The Holy Spirit is the anointing Given Jesus and it is also the same anointing given us , but it all comes from ONE GOD, the FATHER of ALL CREATION. peace and love to you and yours…………………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 7 months ago

    Terraricca………..If that is all you have to support Your False teachings of a FREE WILLS that is pathetic at best. The Free Will offering mentioned in Lev 22:18, has nothing to do with OUR so-called “FREE WILLS”. If that is all you have got to bolster you false belief system of SELF CHOICE BY A “FREE” WILL , YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENT AT ALL.…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 7 months ago

    terraricca………..I firmly  believe you have no idea what you are talking about, with regards to “Free WILLS”, because there exists no such thing as a “FREE WILL”, because GOD gives us liberty to exercise out (INFLUENCED WILLS) does not mean they are “FREE” pure nonsense . You example of a man jumping off a bridge is foolish, because the man…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 7 months ago

    Adam……….Let the Spirit have Its perfect work brother, So-called “FREE WILL” is one of the greatest stumbling blocks Satan uses to cause People to put their trust in themselves, it was this very thing that caused Adam and EVE to fall. They wanted to exercise their (OWN) so-called “FREE WILL” Choices, under the influences of an adversarial…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 7 months ago

    Gorge……None of what you use as an example deals with a “FREE” WILL, but a will influenced by wanting to live. Nothing “FREE” About it. EVEN GOD'S WILL ITSELF IS (NOT) A FREE WILL. ” FOR GOD DOES (ALL) THINGS AFTER THE (COUNSEL) OF HIS WILL”, Get it, even God himself exercises a (COUNSELED) Will not a “FREE WILL”. The only way a WILL could…[Read more]

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    Terraricca…………….Spirit is what intellect (IS) it is what animates our bodies, it is the force or power of Life itself and abides in all things that has life without it nothing (CAN) Live . I use the word intellect because every thing that has life shows signs of intelligence at work in it. From a one celled ameba's to a human beings all…[Read more]

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    WJ…….Jesus' Honor is not His HONOR but GOD the FATHERS HONOR, (“he who believes in me does (NOT) believe in ME but He who has sent me”, can you figure what Jesus meant by that statement.  Jesus could do (NOTHING) HIMSELF , It was GOD the FATHER doing the WORK Jesus was following What GOD was doing. Scripture says GOD ” GIVES HIS GLORY TO (NO)…[Read more]

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    Kerwin…..Amen to what ED J said, good post brother.peace and love …………………..gene

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    WJ……..You must have a hell of a time with where it say, ” NO YOU NOT THAT (NOW) WE ARE THE SONS OF GOD. Tell us does that make us GOD'S also. Can we now expand your Trinity to Millionity, or what. It does say that GOD may be in (ALL) and Trough (ALL) right, so how is it that being we are son of GOD also as Jesus is, some how that makes Jesus…[Read more]

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    Quote (david @ Feb. 05 2010,18:24)According to normal logic and the way people normally speak, when it says: Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:,of course it is talking about Jesus, the firstborn who, as it mentions is in some way connected/related to the invisible God, being the image or reflection of that…[Read more]

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