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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 6 months ago

    Terraricca……….If you do not chose one , that is because that which is influencing you to make that decision is the greatest influence working in you, still Nothing FREE What soever about it.  You are captivated by your WILL no matter what your think. That WILL is far from (FREE) . That is why it says He came and led a host of captives…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 13 2010,14:15)Quote (Gene @ Feb. 13 2010,04:27)To All………the question is not, do we have WILLS, we definitely DO. The question (IS) are they (FREE) or not. I maintain they are (NOT) Free at ALL, But (INFLUENCED) Wills. Because there EXISTS NO SUCH THING AS A “FREE” WILL. So in order to understand this we must understand…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 6 months ago

    Terraricca……….the cognitive process by whch and individual decides on and commits to a particular course of action. That indeed explain what a WILL is, but where doe it say that those cognitive process are (FREE) of influences, because that is what a true “FREE” WILL would consists of. IN fact our cognitive Process are results of Past…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 6 months ago

    ED J……………..You answered your own question. If we have a “FREE WILL” then why is it ONLY GOD”S WILL will be done. Obviously that would not include (OUR WILLS) Being DONE. OR perhaps you think Jesus was saying GOD'S Will will be done, if (OUR) so-called “FREE” Wills decide it is OK for (HIS) WILL to be DONE. A robot ideology has nothing…[Read more]

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    Nick……is right, repentance is of GOD and So is Faith. All given by the GRACE of GOD. “for you are (SORROWED) unto righteousness” and “(GODLY) (SORROW) (WORKS) repentance , not to be repented of”. IMO

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    Chosenone…..I have thought that about NICK also, He seems not to understand the words that are clearly written at times.peace and love to you and yours…………….gene

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    Nick……..if i ask you what is a WORD, Please tell me your answer, Let keep it simple. Would say it is an expression of ones (INTELLECT)?

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    Nick………. The problem is not understanding what is already written in Scriptures.

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    Nick……O it is , then why even have scriptures, are they not Intellects Written down for us to GROW ON. Jesus said His words (written down for us) (ARE) Spirit and LIFE, do you disagree with that? You say Spirit is far more then Intelligent Thoughts , then please tell us what more are they then. peace and love……………….gene

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    Quote (Nick Hassan @ Feb. 11 2010,11:41)G, Faith is according to what is written. Scripture does not say all will be saved.Nick….> where does it say all will not be saved? If it is GOD'S Will none Parish, who are you to disagree with HIM. It's GOD'S creation not your or mine. If God was able to save Paul who said he was the worst of sinners ,…[Read more]

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    Nick……….What makes you think GOD is not the source of our FAITH?  When we say (HE) is the author and finisher of our salvation do we eliminate Him when it comes to our FAITH. Does it not say it is impossible to please GOD without FAITH. So WHO Gives us our FAITH, ourselves or GOD? And Chosenone is right we are saved by the (FAITH of CHRIST)…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 6 months ago

    WJ………Who says that we are not held responsible for our actions, Your not getting it, If our wills drive us to commit a crime or sin of any kind that is US that did It, But a so-called “FREE WILL” has nothing to do with it, it was a (CAPTIVATED WILL) that committed that sin our Wills are held captive by what Most influences us. That is why it…[Read more]

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    Nick………..I try to add scriptures to what i am saying most all the time, Where do you see i am failing to do that. Or is it you simply do not agree with the scriptures quoted because of some form of bias on your part brother. Show where i have altered Scripture content, Please and if i have i will change on that.peace and love………………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 16 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 11 2010,03:39)[quotIf my will is not free, then I am not free indeed!You are making a play on words.When temptation comes, I have the ability to freely choose without succumbing to the influence of bad or evil!Adam and Eve were perfect without any influence (Except that of Good) when the Tempter came!Adam freely…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2010,08:08)[qIsaiah 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (Ed J @ Feb. 11 2010,08:08)[qIsaiah 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 11 2010,08:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 05 2010,10:35)t8So God does not have a form?So God is limited to take on any form that he wants without it being an Angel?Wrong!WJGod's form is spirit and he is invisible. This cannot even be challenged without challenging scripture itself. God dwells inside beings however. It is said…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 16 years, 6 months ago

    Quote (t8 @ Feb. 11 2010,08:03)Quote (WorshippingJesus @ Feb. 05 2010,10:35)t8So God does not have a form?So God is limited to take on any form that he wants without it being an Angel?Wrong!WJGod's form is spirit and he is invisible. This cannot even be challenged without challenging scripture itself. God dwells inside beings however. It is said…[Read more]

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    Quote (terraricca @ Feb. 10 2010,19:52)gene you try to influence the out come of you ideas by  set them in capital letters to deceive ??Terraricca……….So say you, but then who are you to accuse others, PRIDE is a down fall of many, of (SELF WILLED) people.I capitalize to enfranchise my points, no other reasons. Post your reason that is…[Read more]

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    Nick……..What is cold minded about a Loving GOD who gives Us an intellect like HIS. How does the make Him a cold mind. Your logic is completely flawed on this. Produce scriptures to support what you are saying not you own ideas and presumptions. peace and love…………….gene

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