Mike…………..Jesus would not have used something completely unrelated to show his point But would have used some thing at least related to a thread as a rope would have been even thought it would have been impossible to put it through the eye of a needle. A camel has no relationship to a thread of a needle as a rope does. Again simple logic…[Read more]

WJ …………..Good to hear from you again , i see you have not changed a bit though, Let me just reply on one thing you mentioned . “Nether let us temp Christ, as some of them did and were destroyed by serpents” > You seem to think that can't mean The Spirit of GOD or Which (IS) the Anointing Spirit that was (IN) Jesus. And think to assume…[Read more]

Mike…………Why would Jesus even relate a Camel to the eye of a needle it makes no senser at all, Because everyone would know that was an impossible act, it would not be Harder it would impossible to. But if it were a rope as the Aramaic say them it could be thought as possible, that is why Jesus said it was (HARDER), (not impossible) to do…[Read more]

Mike ………..God creates his angels Spirits and puts them in them and send them forth to minister. These Angels have bodies with Spirits in them that GOD installed in them. This is the way i understand it. Spirit is simply (INTELLECTS) of one kind or another That reside in all things that has life in them. IMOpeace and…[Read more]

Mike……….Come and goes is a description of how Spirit (intellect) Woks it is everywhere and can come into a person or leave him and he would not know how it does that. because it can not be seen, because Spirit has NO Body of any kind. Angels are Beings with bodies that have Spirits in them. Just as we are being with Bodies and have Spirits…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 03 2010,11:32)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 02 2010,15:31)Mike…………So who is this ROOT of Jesse spoke of by Isiah then?  You failed to answere that Surely Jesus according to you must have been before Jesse also right?peace and love………………………………….geneI guess I didn't think it was an actual…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 03 2010,11:36)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Dec. 03 2010,01:10)Mike…………Ther is a lot of places where CHRIST Should be translated as The Anointing SPIRIT of GODHi Gene,I'm not doubting you, but I asked for scriptures.  Can you give any that are CLEARLY not about Jesus Christ?mikeMike …………I have but do you believe…[Read more]

Mike…………There still even exists a problem with hose Greek translations because they nearly all have been Produced by biased translators and they tend to support the Trinity conclusions also. It is better to go with a critical text translator who has no religious ties and conviction to any religion but just just translates the pure original…[Read more]

Quote (gollamudi @ Dec. 02 2010,15:45)5. “So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God: But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his” (Rom 8:8,9).Here the Holy Spirit is same as Jesus' spirit or spirit of Christ or spirit of…[Read more]

Shimmer…………..Yes Spirit (BEINGS) all Angels , all men including Jesus, all have bodies with Spirit (intellect) (IN) them, The question is which Spirit in them is controlling them. Spirit is simply thought and can of itself do nothing unless it has a body to animate. It exists in all Dimensions that has life in it, because it ,(spirit),…[Read more]

To all…………Adam and Eve could have lived for Ever with the bodies they Had, or else why did God say they could eat of the tree of Life and never die then?. God made the whole physical creation for man for his future exploration, for adventures, and future habitations as it say “that he might PLANT the HEAVENS”. Man is not made to become…[Read more]

Adam…………Have you ever went to the Jeff Beaner site he is a Hebrew Scholar and give the pictorial language of the Hebrews, Good site. Also i will try to get a copy of “who wrote the bible” I do believe it was indeed made up of many different perspectives , But i also believe it was (ORIGINALLY) GOD Breathed> for the most part but corrupted…[Read more]

Mike………Another thing i looked at NETBible and they are slanted to trinitarian thinking and also force text to meet their preconceived ideologies of preexistence and divinity of Jesus. They are biased in their opinions. eSword may be a better source but some of their commentaries can lean toward trinitarians concepts also A good Greek linear…[Read more]

Mike…………Ther is a lot of places where CHRIST Should be translated as The Anointing SPIRIT of GOD , that what it means by if Christ be in you, that is not talking about Jesus the man, That is the Spirit Jesus had also in him. The CHRISTOS is the common denominator (IN) all true Christians or Anointed ones. These are those born of GOD and…[Read more]

Kerwin…………The GNB Adam quoted has it right, brother, Jesus was foretold to come into existence from the Garden of Eden (from the seed of the women) that was Jesus. IMOpeace and love…………………………gene

Mike………..Tell us one thing why was Jesus resurected with a Body if Spirit does not have a body, and Why did Jesus say a spirit does not have flesh and bone as you see i have, is that not the same as saying he was not a spirit being at all? While you are at it also tell us why is there even any physical resurrection of any kind in the first…[Read more]

Mike…………So who is this ROOT of Jesse spoke of by Isiah then? You failed to answere that Surely Jesus according to you must have been before Jesse also right?peace and love………………………………….gene

Mike………..From and Of are synonymous in Greek. They come from the same root wording as i recall. Like the king James say (FOR) he went which means (Because) He went. You should have been able to put to all together by the scriptures i posted easily and Jesus in Rev was Saying he was the root and offprint (of) or (FROM) David is clear and…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Dec. 01 2010,12:45)Kerwin:Quote Could you also point out a scripture that implicitly states Jesus is or was an immaterial being as I have yet to read one of those either.1 Cor 10 NIV3 They all ate the same spiritual food 4 and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that…[Read more]

Quote (t8 @ Dec. 01 2010,14:04)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Nov. 28 2010,04:23)T8……..Yes Jesus existed (past tense) in the Nature of GOD because he had the fullness of the Spirit (IN) Him WHILE HE WAS (ON) EARTH. Paul was drawing their attention to when Jesus was walking on the earth, not before that time. He did not say Jesus existed before he came…[Read more]