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    thankfull…………> Spirits do not have Bodies, Spirits are what is (IN) bodies. GOD who is Spirit was and is (IN) Jesus and can be in you Just the same way as he was in Jesus. peace and love to you and yours…………………………………………….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 7 months ago

    Irene……….where did Jesus say give me “BACK” any glory he had with the Farther, see you preexistences alway have to ADD Words to draw you false conclusions. Jesus had the Glory with the Father before he ever was Born Just as Cyrus and other had as well as all the Saints also have this Glory even though they have not yet recieved that Glory it…[Read more]

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    Irene……………….Simple, a Spirit is what is (IN) a Body. Spirit is simply our (INTELLECTS) If you have the mind (intellect) of the Christos (anointing Spirit) You have the mind of GOD (IN) YOU just as Jesus our brother had (IN) HIM. What is so difficult about that?. I is only difficult if you don't understand it. IMOpeace and…[Read more]

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    Georg………..A word (IS) the expression of the MIND a Word is (INTELLIGENT UTTERANCE) God and his words are one and the same , If his Words are (IN) you then GOD is (IN) YOU. This is the same for us as well as it was for Jesus. You still do not understand what Spirit really is. IMOpeace and love………………………………………….gene

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    EDJ………..I believe the Holy Spirit is and (IT) and from GOD the Father, so i would have to vote actually for one and two. I voted for one because i relate more with the Holy Spirit as GOD the Father. peace and love…………………………………….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 7 months ago

    To All…………The “WORD” is GOD and NOT Jesus, and GOD was (IN) Jesus Speaking through Him. But that does not make the person Jesus speaking GODS Words, GOD, no more then if your were to Speak GOD'S Word that would make you GOD. There are seven Spirits of one GOD and those all seven spirits can indwell anyone GOD Choses to put them in, man…[Read more]

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    To All……….Back to the subject at hand, This whole concept of Spirit Bodies is the cause of so much confusion in religion it is amazing. Again i repeat A Spirit is what is (IN) Bodies it self is not a BODY of any kind. IMOpeace and love…………………………………….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 7 months ago

    Georg……….What? i am putting a spin by quoting what Mike has just said, Georg, that is the reason you preexistences never come to understanding you block yourself from even reading things Posted rightly. This is caused by your preconditioning of past false teachings of Preexistence and your Trinitarian past association, IMO. peace and…[Read more]

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    EDJ…………Good post, good food for thought brother. IMOpeace and love to you and yours………………………………………gene

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    Georg……….So you are serious right, then why reject the Scriptures EDJ Posted then. Like Isiah 44:24, and Rev 4:11, you can't answer them so you people try to attack the person and think by your stupid word play that makes you right. This what most Preexistences do, anything the goes against their false teachings the try to make the person…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 7 months ago

    Mike…….I am not hung up on simple words , you simply do  not know how they are used in the context of the text they are used in. IMO Tell us this, where it says ” WHAT IS MAN THAT THOU CONSIDERED HIM , YOU HAVE MADE HIM LOWER THEN THE ANGELS FOR THE TASTING OF DEATH BUT YOU HAVE (CROWNED) (a past tense expression) With GLORY AND HONOR”, Now…[Read more]

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    Mike…. o i have it wrong right? Then i guess God has it wrong also ……… Isaiah 44: 24….> Thus saith the LORD thy redeemer, and He that formed thee from the womb, I AM THE LORD THAT (MAKES)(ALL) THINGS, THAT STRETCHES FORTH THE HEAVENS (ALONE); THAT SPREADS ABROAD THE EARTH (BY) (MYSELF). Isaiah 44: 28……> That saith of Cyrus, he is my…[Read more]

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    Mike……….you have it wrong brother, God said HE created every thing “(ALONE) and (BY HIMSELF)”. Jesus was not even there Mike , he did not even exist till four thousand years after the creation of the world and everything in it, but it was for that specific purpose of the Man Jesus the first from Man kind and for mankind, that GOD create…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 7 months ago

    Mike…………That Gory was in the Prophetic Word of GOD , He was the “Seed” spoken of to bruise the head of the serpent, Every thing written about Jesus was to His Glory , but he only had it in the foreknowledge of GOD he did not have it until he acquired it after his resurrection, but it indeed was a Glory he had with the Father before he ever…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 7 months ago

    Mike………So now its is “SPOKESMAN” AND “DUBBED” the WORD of GOD. So who has said different , Jesus was Indeed the one who Spoke GOD'S “WORDS” to Us (in fact) GOD was (TRULY) (IN) Him speaking (HIS WORDS) through his mouth. It was GOD Speaking Not Jesus through Jesus Mouth. So Jesus said accurately the “WORDS” he Spoke were (NOT) His WORDS, so…[Read more]

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    Quote (mikeboll64 @ Jan. 30 2011,04:45)Quote (Gene Balthrop @ Jan. 30 2011,04:03)The Spirit (intellect) of Truth IS ALSO AN ATTRIBUTE OF GOD.Hi Gene,And so what you're saying is that an attribute of God shares an image with God?  Does your attribute of “truth” share your “image”?  How about your attribute of “justice”.  Does that attribute have an…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 7 months ago

    MIke………..indeed “quite a difference”. So being you are insisting a “WORD “IS” FLESH” or as you say the WORD BECAME FLESH. when was the last time you (SEEN) a FLESH WORD , I have seen a word spelled out and spoken many times in my life but i have never see a FLESH WORD have you?. if you say you have then it time for the loony bin for you.…[Read more]

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    Mike…………..Why then does it say that “GOD MAY BE ALL AND (IN) YOU ALL” and again  “KNOW YOU NOT THAT (NOW) YOU (ARE) THE SONS OF THE LIVING GOD”.  And again “LET THIS MIND BE (IN) YOU THAT WAS IN CHRIST JESUS OUR Lord” . MIKE HERE IS YOU PROBLEM IMO…….Act 17:29 ..> For as much then as we are the (OFFSPRING) OF GOD, we ought not to t…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 15 years, 7 months ago

    theodorej………….I agree with what you wrote about the word (GOD) being (IN) the Man Jesus. I never disagreed with that, i am fully convened that God the Father was truly and fully (IN) Jesus. Jesus has and Had (after the Jordan) all seven spirits of the living GOD (IN) HIM and still does. WE also can have that same anointing on us, Just as…[Read more]

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    Mike…………..No the our are individual (ATTRIBUTES) of ONE GOD and these Attributes are (IN) all his CREATION even MAN. That is why it say the invisible things of GOD can be seen by the things created, why because He instilled in His creation some of his attributes (spirits) (intellects) and these (cause) his creation to function. When it…[Read more]

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