Mike………..God was speaking through Jesus and in some cases spoke first person. it was not Jesus who said destory this temple and in three day (I) shall raise it up, That was God first person speaking by his Spirit through Jesus' mouth. Jesus was dead and did not raise his body from death it was God the Father who did that. and where it says ,…[Read more]

T8………..Come on you do support the idea that Jesus was a “MORPHED” Angel unless i am mistaken in this but this is what i have been lead by your words, you agree with Mike and Pierre about Jesus' Preexistences as a Sentinel Being and used scriptures to shore up this false belief. Jesus was a Man like all other men and came into existence the…[Read more]

ED J…………..Paul was not breaking a person down into three parts as you and others assume, Paul was saying simply the three terms that deal with a complete person, His Spirit and Soul and Body , be preserved , naturally that would be the case becasue your Spirit and Body is a “LIVING” SOUL, so all these are part of a Person as a WHOLE, a…[Read more]

T8…………Paul was not say that “rock” was Jesus the man or any Angel , he was saying that Rock was the (ANOINTING) Spirit of GOD , It was In Moses and other leaders of Israel and was also in Angels too, it all was the SAME SPIRIT ANOINTING of GOD doing that. peace and love……………………………………………….gene

T8………….Martin did not believe in the preexistence of Jesus as you well know, and He was right on . In his posts IMOpeace and love………………………………………..gene

T8…………Nick has it right Jesus did not exist before his berth on this earth , but the “CHRISTOS” Did it was in the beginning with GOD the Father and came to be (IN) the Man Jesus who is called the Christ. The teaching of the Trinity as well as the Preexistence of Jesus is a false teachings T8. The Trinitarians also teach Jesus Preexisted…[Read more]

Mike…………The question here is do Spirits have bodies and the answer is no they Live (IN) Bodies they themselves are not bodies of any Kind. That is why a Soul = a BODY + SPIRIT And that is what makes a LIVING SOUL Just as Genesis says. Adam became (or came to be a “LIVING SOUL, when? after Spirit was Breath in his BODY> He was not a…[Read more]

To all………..Spirit in its simplest meaning is Cognate thought or simply put our INTELLECTS, Therefore when it say to try the Spirits we are trying what a person is saying becasue the spirits in him is what is producing his words , Just as the Spirit of the Living God that was (IN) Jesus' Body and regarded it as a temple, that He was In and…[Read more]

T8……….Yes and the Second Adam was Jesus and after his resurrection he had a Physical BODY. With his Spirit (IN) that body, but his Spirit was not the Body he had Now was it. Mikes sees Spirit as Bodies another words the man who had a Legion of demonic unclean Sprit (IN) him, Mike see that as a man with a “body” had a thousand “Bodies” (IN)…[Read more]

Mike………….And to you that is a scripture that say SPIRITS have BODIES.  That is your answer? That scripture say  nothing about Spirits having Bodies. No wonder you confused with all you so-call many meanings of the word Spirit.  Spirits do NOT Have bodies MIKE.Not scripture say they do , they are what is (IN) BODIES.  Even God who is a spi…[Read more]

Mike………..Jesus said them So what is the problem with that? He had a Predestined GLORY Given him by GOD before he ever existed or ever came into being, Just as Cyrus the King Did, and others as Jeremiah. Produce a Scripture where Jesus ever said He “PREEXISTED” Before his berth on the Earth as any kind of BEING. The Key word here is…[Read more]

Quote (mikeboll64 @ Feb. 13 2012,01:25)Wow Gene,It's like every time you say, “There is no scripture that says that!”, someone pops out the scripture that DOES say it.I hope you're learning.  I am.Mike……..So produce your scripture that say Spirits have Bodies, and and where Scripture say we all Have “FREE WILL'S (IN) us. And where John 1:1…[Read more]

To All………….I had another reason for saying Adam and Eve did not sin that i was basing what i said on, and it is this . If you told a Innocent child who does not “know” Good from Evil,  Something to do an he did it does that make him a sinner becasue he did what was wrong. Now who would you say it sinned, was it the Child or the one who…[Read more]

Ed j…………….indeed the word of God is GOD'S Spirit or LOGOS same thing. Jesus plainly said the WORDS I am telling you “ARE” Spirit and “ARE” Life. So the Logos, God, who is a Spirit are all one and the same thing. This is how God the FATHER is (IN) Us by his very own LOGOS the same LOGOS that was (IN) Jesus can also be (IN) US> You have…[Read more]

T8………..The is true the 144 thousand are decedents of the 12 tribes of Israel, but there is a UN-numerable multitude also their on the sea of Glass as Nick said.peace and love………………………………………………gene

Wakeup………..Amen it is God who give the increase.peace and love……………………………….gene

ED J…………Yes i do understand that, But it was what was INFLUENCING Them that was the source of the real disobedience  right?That is what caused them to break “FREE” from the “WILL” of GOD and exercise their own “WILL'S”  of becoming independent to GOD'S “WILL” and forming their own Wills or a (I) GOD existence. Jesus said “SATAN” was a L…[Read more]

Wakeup………..Yea that was over thirty years ago, Sense i left that church i was a novice then and know very little about scriptures then but with God's help i learned and am still learning as He teaches Me . The WCG never taught Jesus was a Morphed Angel to my recollection and they did not believe in the trinity either. Thy believe once we…[Read more]

Shimmer ……….Yea i know there are many offshoots from the WCG, and i am not sorry i was in that church becasue i did learn a lot about the Law and the Holy Days, and meant many good and loving people there. But they wanted us to stay in the Old Testament and Not move on the More Spiritual things given in the New Testament, While the Laws…[Read more]

Kerwin……….The word timeless can be applied to some things, like where it say and the Smoke of their torment ascends up for ever. Remember Smoke is the result of Fire , now carry that over spiritually , it is like this, IMO, (paraphrased) The lesson of their Intense Judgment (fire) will rise up for ever and ever, another words it will…[Read more]