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    Kerwin…….”All who (truly) believe on me have “PASSED” (pass tense) from judgment unto life”, Jesus told us.

     

    Peace And love to you and yours………………………gene

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    To all……..The hidden attributes of God are seen by the things created.

    Peace and love to you all…………….gene

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    T8…….Evidently I was mistaken ,your still blind to the truth about Jesus coming into his existence as a human being  it appears. Sorry for the mistake.

    Peace and love to you and yours…………………………..gene

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    Nick……………It says, “but he shall be “SAVED” yet as by Fire”.  Now what do you think that means brother.  If you see the fire mentioned their as a literal Fire , then how could he be saved it would burn him up, hardly save him.  Scripture in many place uses Fire as a type of “intense Judgement”, Peter even said  “THIS FIERY TRIAL WHICH HAS…[Read more]

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    To all………There are two comings one is the Lord Jesus the Christ, and at the end of his thousand year reign, then comes God Almighty and his judgment on the armies gathered by Satan from the whole world , that come against Jesus and the Saints who are  at Jerusalem , fire from God will come down and devour those attacking armies, and the…[Read more]

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    T8……..I do believe you are beginning to see, JESUS is one of us human beings completely now, you are beginning to identify with him on a identical human level, that is exactly what Satan does not want you to do brother. But thanks be to God he has shown you that Jesus is our BROTHER in every sense for the word. As we begin to see Jesus exactly…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 12 months ago

    Wakeup……….I know that is the will of the flesh, we all have it, but those who have the spirit of God are driven by something else. >”for it is God that works in you “BOTH” to “WILL” and do of “HIS” good pleasure.”

    Howevery you want to put it, WILLS are driven by our desires, and all those desires are influenced desires and are not from, a…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 12 months ago

    Wakeup……. My answer to you is that it has nothing to do with a will that is free but a driven will because that is my desire. I have liberty on this form to express my opinion here. You or no one else has produced a single scripture that say man has a so called Will that is FREE “itSELF”, all of our will are driven by our desires and as the…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 11 years, 12 months ago

    T8……….I am not saying we don’t have LIBERTY to make choices, I am talking about the desires composing those wills, which makes those choices, They are not FREE at all, but are INFLUENCED.

    There is no such thing as a WILL the is FREE or it simply would not even be a WILL, the word “FREEWILL” is a OXYMORON because the word FREE disqulifies…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 12 years ago

    Kerwin………..Whats the UB, I have no idea what you are talking about brother.

    peace and love to you and yours……………….gene

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    Terricca………Here is another scripture you and others here obviously do not “TRULY” believe.

    John 14:12..VERLY VERLY, I SAY UNTO YOU , HE THAT BELIEVES ON ME, THE WORKS THAT I DO SHALL HE DO ALSO; AND “GREATER WORKS” THAN THESE SHALL HE DO; BECAUSE I GO UNTO MY FATHER.

    Pierre Jesus seem to think we can do greater works then he did, Now how…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 12 years ago

    Terricca………..LUST of the eye, Lust of the flesh, amd the PRIDE of life. Just as Hohn said.

    peace and love to you and yours…………………….gene

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    Terricca…………I have posted those scriptures over and over here but you fail to see it. Tell me what does this mean to you.”WE ARE “JOINT HEIRS WITH cHRIST” AND AGAIN “AND THE kINGDOM SHALL BE GIVEN TO THE SAINTS OF THE MOST HIGH”, and again, UNTILL WE ALL COME TO THE MEASURE AND “FULL” STATURE OF CHRIST. and again where it saysm “ALL”…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Free Will? 12 years ago

    T8…………Wrong, i expect the word i have said will convience your mind and the word i have said does not come from a Will that is “FREE” ITSELF, but a Will that is driven by my God given understanding to speak what i believe to be true. I have LIBERTY here to Express that knowledge, that is the nature of your form, it is what you allow, but…[Read more]

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    Kerwin…..Bart Ehrman does believe in Jesus, he just does not believe in modern “religious” conception of him, and shows plainly how the image of Jesus was transformed over the centuries and changed over the centries to a position of him being a God. He uses the actual texts, we now have to explain this change step by step. He is a critical text…[Read more]

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    Kerwin…….If you can please please please get a copy of the book I have mentioned above it will Greatly enhance your understanding of the process of Christology, how over the years Christianity change its view. About Jesus to what it is today: he takes you through step by step sequences in time and uses scripture to support his every statement…[Read more]

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    To all……………………I have just finished reading a book entitled  HOW JESUS BECAME GOD , written by Bart D. Ehrman. I highely recommend it to all of you , it is a historical book of the develoment of CHROSTOLGY . It shows how the view of Jessu changed over the first 400 years after Jesus’ death, how the original apostles view Jesus as a…[Read more]

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    Terricca…………Did not Jessu say the student is not above his master, it is enough the the student be  just LIKE his teacher. But you say we can not be LIKE Jesus. The word of Jesus says differently. You have moved Jesus away from yourself and made him differtent then you are. While he is now highely exaluted, he was not born that way, he c…[Read more]

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    wakeup………………..Jesus said God is (a) spirit , Jesus said that God the Father was in him he did not say he was that God that was in him Jesus recieved that spirit at the Jordan river and there, on that day, he became a begotten son of God, Just as we do when we recieve the Spirit of God into us. Trying to seperate Jesus Idenity from o…[Read more]

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    Wakeup………..it  all boils down to spirit, Jesus said God is Spirit and he also said He was not a Spirit, that shoud clear up some of your misunderstanding about Jesus being a God.

    Next in John 1; 1 we are told the Word (which is translated from the Greek word LOGOS means, simply put, (intellegence), John was not talking about another Person…[Read more]

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