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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    To all…… Look we have BD a MOSLUM here, one of the biggest complaints they have against christianity is this idea that we believe in more then one GOD, BY MAKING THE MAN JESUS ALSO A GOD, THAT IS A LEGIMATE COMPLAINT THEY HAVE, BUT WE WHO ARE OF THE TRUTH KNOW JESUS IS NO GOD, EVEN THOUGH WE ARE CHRISTIANS, “WE” HAVE STRONG SCRIPTURAL ACCURACY…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Kerwin…….SORRY i was meaning that post to go to Miia, but you did say HE (JESUS) COMUNICATES TO BELIEVERS BY “HIS” SPIRIT WHICH “IS” GOD’S SPIRIT. THAT is not true, also the comforter is not Jesus spirit either, it is THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH GIVEN TO US BY THE FATHER, THIS SPIRIT WAS ALSO IN JESUS THROUGH THE ANOINTING HE HAD RECIEVED. We should…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Miia……GOD’S SPIRIT I NOT JESUS’ SPIRIT, JESUS HAS HIS OWN SPIRIT, JUST AS WE HAVE, HE COMMENDED IT TO GOD WHEN HE WAS ABOUT TO DIE. GOD THE FATHER, WHO IS Spirit was “IN” Jesus, reconciling the whole world unto “HIMSELF”. None of that ever made Jesus the spirit of GOD THAT WAS “IN” HIM. ALL GLORY BELONGS THE THE FATHER, WITHOUT HIM “NOTHING”…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Kerwin……GO’S SPIRIT I NOT JESUS’ SPIRIT JESUS HAS HIS OWN SPIRIT JUST AS WE HAVE, HE COMMENDED IT TO GOD WHEN HE WAS ABOUT TO DIE. GOD THE FATHER, WHO IS Spirit was “in” Jesus reconciling the whole world unto himself. None of that ever made Jesus the spirit of GOD THAT WAS “IN” HIM. ALL GLORY BELONGS THE THE FATHER, WITHOUT HIM “NOTHING” COULD…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Miia…..PART OF YOU ANSWER IS EXACTLY WHAT I BELIEVE, JESUS DID SAY CLEARLY “many will come in my name, saying i am (THIS AND THAT), and decieve many”. Mamy preach JESUS, AS THE LORD, MASTER, SAVOIR, JUDGE, KING, REDEEMER AND every thing you mentioned,(except the humble HUMAN servant of his Father who is GOD, so where does the FATHER FIT IN…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Miia…..YOU ANSWER IS EXACTLY WHAT I BELIEVE, JESUS SAID CLEARLY “many will come in my name, saying i am (THIS AND THAT), and decieve many”. Mamy preach JESUS, AS THE LORD, MASTER, SAVOIR, JUDGE, KING, REDEEMER AND every thing you mentioned,(except the humble servant of his Father who is GOD, so where does the FATHER FIT IN YOUR LIFE, SEENING…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Miia…….PRAY to the FATHER AS JESUS INSTRUCTED US TO, EVEN IF WE ASK IN HIS NAME WE ARE TO PRAY TO THE FATHER. WE ARE BROUGHT TO JESUS BY GOD THE FATHER, HIMSELF. Remember, “no man “CAN” COME UNTO ME EXCEPT THE FATHER “DRAW” HIM. IT IS THE FATHER WHO. REAVEALS THE TRUTH TO US, remember what he told PETER. The same applies to us.

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Miia…..where does it say Steven “prayed” to Jesus he BESOUGHT him because he was there, present AT THE TIME, with the FATHER, HE RECONIZED JESUS, AND SO HE ADDRESSED HIM AS lord (adoni) human ruler, NOT AS GOD . No teaching of JESUS SAYS WE ARE TO “PRAY” TO HIM. I HAVE HAD MANY MANY PRAYER ANSWERED IN MY LIFE AND NVER PRAYED “TO” JESUS, BUT I…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Miia…..where doe it say steven “prayed to jesus” he besaught him because he was there present in site with the FATHER, HE RE ONIZED JESUS, AND SO HE ADDRESSED HIM AS lord (adoni) human ruler . No teaching of JESUS SAYS WE ARE TO “PRAY” TO HIM. I HAVEHAD MANY MANY PRAYER ANSWERED IN MY LIFE AND NVER PRAYED “TO” JESUS, BUT I HAVE PRAYED IN HIS…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Nick…….Asking THE FATHER IN ANYONES NAME DOES NOT MEAN YOU ARE PRAYING TO THAT PERSON IN WHOSE NAME YOU ARE ASKING, Comon sense 101.

    FACT IS YOU ARE BOUND BY YOUR OWN DOGMAS. THE FATHER IS THE ONE WHO WE ARE TOLD BY JESUS TO PAY TO, NOT HIM.

    peace and love to you and yours. ………………gene

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    Db….Spirit begets Spirit, GOD IS A SPIRIT, IF THE SEED OF GOD ABIDE IN YOU YOU ARE A SON OF GOD EVEN NOW. Having a son or daughter does not make even human beings equal. BUT IT DOES TIE THEM TOGETHER IN A RELATIONSHIP. MANY SCRIPTURES SHOW GOD HAS SONS . GOD THE FATHER IS UNIQUE, BUT HE HAS MANY, MANY SONS AND DAUGHTERS. IF ISLAM DOES NOT…[Read more]

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    DavidL…….The scripture you quotes is not saying that those people “are” GOD’S, big or little gods, BUT THEY ARE GOD’S POSSESIONS, IT IS WRITTEN IN A POSSIVE SENSE. If those scriptures were saying that thy were true GOD’S, THEN JESUS WOULD HAVE SIMPLY RESPONED BY SAYING HE WAS A GOD ALSO, JUST AS THEY WERE, But he did not respond that way , He…[Read more]

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    David ………Why commit IDOLATRY, JESUS IS NOT A GOD OF AMYKIND, HE NEVER SAID HE WAS, so why should you try to make him one. By saying he is a GOD YOU ARE TURNING THE IMAGE OF HIM INTO THE IMAGE OF “A MAN OF SIN”, 2Ths2, and not even realizing it. God the Father said clearly “YOU SHALL HAVE “NO OTHER” GOD BESIDES ME”. How do you expect the…[Read more]

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    David ………Why commit IDOLATRY, JESUS IS NOT A GOD OF AMYKIND, HE NEVER SAID HE WAS, so why should you try to make him one. Bysaying he is a GOD YOU ARE TURNING THE IMAGE OF HIM INTO A MAN OF SIN, and not even realizing. God the Father said clearly “YOU SHALL HAVE “NO OTHER” GOD BESIDES ME”. How do you expect the Father to accept you when you…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Kerwin…..YES THE FALSE TEACHING ABOUT JESUS BEING A GOD, IS THE “LIE” MENTIONED IN 2Ths2, IT IS A FALSE “IMAGE” OF HIM AND IT DOES CAUSE PEOPLE TO BECOME DESOLATE, IN THEIR RELATION WITH GOD THE FATHER.

    “BECAUSE THEY RECIEVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, GOD WILL SEND THEM A “STROMG” DELUSION, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BELIEVE A “LIE”. That lie is…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    Kerwin…..YES THE FALSE TEACHING ABOUT JESUS BEING A GOD, IS THE “LIE” MENTIONED IN 2Ths2, IT IS A FALSE “IMAGE” OF HIM AND IT DOES CAUSE PEOPLE TO BECOME DESOLATE, IN THEIR RELATION WITH GOD THE FATHER.

    “BECAUSE THEY RECIEVED NOT THE LOVE OF THE TRUTH, GOD WILL SEND THEM A “STROMG” DELUSION, IN ORDER FOR THEM TO BELIEVE A “LIE”. That lie is…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 3 months ago

    MIIA……. NO Scripture shows any man praying to JESUS, when JESUSWAS PRESENT WITHTHEN he told them ifthey ask any thing of him he would do it, he was speaking ofhim while he was right there, no scripture say we areto pray to JESUS AND ASKING THE FATHER IN HIS NAME, only proves the person is talkingto GOD when he ask it in Jesus’…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 4 months ago

    Miia…..FIRST OF ALL WHERE DID I “EVER” SAY Jesus was the abomnation that makes desolate. I never say that nor implied it, what i said was the “FALSE” “IMAGE” OF JESUS BEING A “GOD, IS THE ABOMNATION THAT MAKES DESOLATE. PLEASE DO NOT MISQUOTE ME I HAVE ENOUGH OF THAT HERE ALREADY. I HAVE NEVER PRAYED TO JESUS AND HAD A PRAYER ANSWERED TO MY…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 4 months ago

    Miia…….THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH “KNOWS” THE TRUTH, AND IF IT ABIDES IN YOU YOU CAN TELL WHEN YOU HEAR THE TRUTH. Jesus is not a GOD, NOR IS HE EQUAL TO THE FATHER, HE IS A MAN, everything he accomplished was by GOD THE FATHER, HE PLAINLY SAID HE COULD OF “HIMSELF” DO “NOTHING”, DO YOU BELIEVE WHAT HE SAID OR NOT? YOU NEED TO HONESTLY ANSWER THAT…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years, 4 months ago

    Nick…..yes i have heard of a persons stomach being “called HIS god” but is it “really” a GOD, SO WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO JUSTIFY YOUR FALSE TEACHING OF OTHER GOD’S AS IF THEY WERE NOT “FALSE” GOD’S. LET GO OF YOUR PRIDE AN START BELIEVING IN THE TRUTH, THERE IS “NO” GOD BUT “ONE”. LEST YOU BECOME AN IDOLATR LIKE SOME HERE ARE, AND THE FATHER DEAL…[Read more]

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