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    Terricca……Ccorrect the word “ALL” means “ALL” and every man in his order. The spirit of God changes our thinking, it renews our minders, it reveals (transfers) to our minds Gods way of seeing things, his intellect is placed into us by the holy spirit he has given us. By that process we are born if God, his seed abides in U.S., we are children…[Read more]

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    Nick……if what I say meets what scriptures are impling why not believe it” ?
    You believe there are SPIRITS and yet no actual original scripture uses that word until it was added in the 1300’s. So how is that ok and the use of the word INTELLEGENT is not?

    peace and love to you and yours…………….gene

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    Nick…..But you don’t believe spirits can give us their intellegence remember, you believe they are not INTELLEGENT so to say they can “TEACH” which means transferring of intellegence from one to another would be impossible according to you. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours………….gene

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    Nick…..I said the spirit gives us Their intellects, from God or from man or Angels, or Devils or demons. JESUS said clearly the “WORDS” he was telling us WERE SPIRIT, now what is the meaning of “WORD” it means “INTELLEGENT UTTERANCE” now try to let that sink into your hard head. AND of course the Written word does not contain intellect, because…[Read more]

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    EDj……Right my will is being driven and I am being taught ( intellegently) by the spirit of Living God that abides “IN” me. Nor did my will chose God, He chose me. Just as Jesus did not choose him either, nor John the Baptist, nor the prophets of old, God the Father is Sovern in “ALL” things, not just thing you “will” him to be. All…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years ago

    Kerwin……I can honor anyone that does not mean I worship them. I believe T8 is wrong. I realize worship contains honor, in some aspects, but it certainly is not the exact same word. I don’t believe you believe it is either. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours…………….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Basic logic in the forum Truth or Tradition 11 years ago

    T8……I do not believe the word worship is the same as honoring, worship goes beyond just honoring brother.IMO

    peace and love to you and yours………………gene

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    WJ…..hope all is well with you, have you finally came to see Jesus is not God, and that there is no such thing as a “TRINITY” ?

    peace and love to you and yours……………gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years ago

    Terricca…….God lives vacariously in “and” through his creation. When Jesus said the Father was “IN” him he truly meant it. If you understood what spirits are and can do you would understand that. God is spirit and can actually exist “in” a person and speak through him. Jesus was not lying when he said “he could do “nothing” of himself, the…[Read more]

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    Nick…..The words I have posted are scriptural you simply seem unable to understand them, that’s not my fault now is it. Anyone who believes Spirits are not intelligent, lacks scriptural decernment. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours…………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years ago

    Terricca……JESUS SAID “THE FATHER WAS “IN” HIM, IN FACT, HE SAID HE COULD DO “NOTHING” OF HIMSELF, BUT IT WAS THE FATHER IN HIM DOING THE “WORKS”. GOD IS SPIRIT AND CAN ACTUALLY CO-HABBAT ANYONE HE CHOSES TO. “THAT GOD MAY BE IN “ALL” AND “THROUGH” ALL. WE DID NOT CHOSE GOD, HE CHOSE US. GOD CAN SPEAK (FIRST PERSON) RIGHT THROUGH YOUR VERY OWN…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years ago

    Terricca……JESUS SAID “THE FATHER WAS “IN” HIM, INFACT HE SAID HE COULD DO “NOTHING” OF HIMSELF, BUT IT WAS TBE FATHER IN HIMDOING THE “WORKS”. GOD IS SPIRIT AND CAN ACTUALLY CO-HABBAT ANYONE HE CHOSES TO. WE DID NOT CHOSE GOD, HE CHOSE US. GOD CAN SPEAK (FIRST PERSON) RIGHT THROUGH YOU VERY OWN MOUTH. HE HAS IN ME BEFORE AND WHAT WAS SAID DID…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years ago

    Terricca……Thats right, the same holds with us, REMEMBER WHAT PAUL SAID, “know you not your “body” is the temple of the living GOD”? GOD LIVES VARCARIOUSELY IN AND THROUGH HIS CREATION. GOD CAN BE IN ALL and THROUGH ALL AT THE SAME TIME, BECAUSE HE IS SPIRIT. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. ……………..gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years ago

    Kerwin…..the reason, i have quoted this scripures so many times here, where GOD SPOKE DIRECTLY THROUGH JESUS’MOUTH , WAS TO SHOW GODS PRESENSE IN JESUS, IT WAS NOT JESUS WHO SAID DESTORY THIS BODY AND IN THREE DAYS I (GOD) SHALL RAISE IT UP, scripture tells us it was GOD WHO RAISED HIM UP, Jesus did not raise himself up from the grave it was the…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years ago

    Kerwin…..the reason, i have quotesthe scripures so manyti eshere,where GOD SPOKE DIRECTLY THROUGH JESUS’MOUTH , WADTO SHOW GODS PRESENSE IN JESUS, IT WAS NOT JESUD WHO SAID DESTORY THIS BODY AND INTBREEDAYS I SHALLK HAISE IT UP,scripture tells us it was GOD WHO AISED HIM UP, Jesusdid not raise himself up from the grave it was the FATHER who was…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years ago

    Kerwin…..See this is where I differ, you see i believe GOD THE FATHER WAS “ACTUALLY” PRESENT “IN” JESUS, LITERLY, HE WAS CO-HABBITING JESUS’ BODY WITH HIM, and HE can also “ACTUALLY” CO-HABBIT WITH US, SCRIPTURE SHOW GOD OWNS US COMPLETELY.

    1 Cor 6:19……WHAT? Know you not that your body is the temple of the HOLY GHOST (SPIRIT) which is…[Read more]

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    MIKE……Jesus was indeed a messenger of GOD, JUST AS THE PROPHETS WERE ALSO, BUT NONE OF THAT MADE HIM AN ANGEL BEING, NO MORE THEN IT MADE THE PROPHETS ANGELS EITHER. Why does scripture clearly say HEB 2:5… “GOD HAS NOT PUT IN SUBJECTION THE WORLD TO COME UNTO ANGELS” ,

    HEB 2:9… “But we see JESUS WHO WAS MADE A LITTLE LOWER THE THE…[Read more]

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    Nick……So what “YOU” post here is strictly what is written in scripture, but what we post is from our own minds, now are we to”assume” your mind produce GOD’S THOUGHTS BUT OURS DO NOT, YOUR MIND IS LED by the spirit of GOD, BUT OUR ARE NOT?

    When JESUS SAID THE “WORDS” (INTELLEGENT UTTERANCES) I AM TELLING YOU “ARE SPIRIT”, AND LIFE. And…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Who is this Jesus? 11 years ago

    Kerwin …..DO YOU BELIEVE THAT GOD THE FATHER WAS TRULY “IN” THE MAN JESUS THROUGH THE ANOINTING OF HIS VERY OWN SPIRIT. THAT JESUS “BODY” CONTAINED BOTH JESUS’ SPIRIT AND GOD THE FATHER SPIRITS? WHO DO YOU BELIEVE SAID, ..”DESTORY” THIS “TEMPLE” AND IN THREE DAYS “I’ SHALL RAISE “IT” UP. WAS THAT THE FATHER FIRST PERSON SPEAKING THROUGH JESUS’…[Read more]

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    Nick……BECAUSE GOD REAVEALS THINGS INTO OUR MINDS AND OUR MIND IS WHAT WE THINK WITH. I find it hard to believe you do not understand that. NO WONDER YOU BELIEVE SPIRITS DO NOT PASS ON their “INTELLECTS” INTO OUR MINDS.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……………gene

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