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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    Kerwin….GOD DOSE MORE HE, CREATES OUR WILLS. THAT HE MIGHT DO OF “HIS” GOOD PLEASURE “IN” US, ” FOR WE ARE BEING “CREATED’ UNTO GOOD WORKS” WE ARE TOLD. THE ANOINTING SPIRIT OF GOD “IN” US IS OUR HOPE OF GLORY, JUST LIKE IT WAS FOR JESUS. WHOEVER HAS THE SPIRIT OF THE FATHER “IN” THEM, HAS BECOME A HEIRS AND JOINT HEIRS WITH JESUS, THE…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    Kerwin….GOD DOSE MORE HE, CREATES OUR WILLS. THAT HE MIGHT DO OF “HIS” GOOD PLEASURE “IN” US, ” FOR WE ARE BEING “CREATED’ UNTO GOOD WORKS” WE ARE TOLD. THE ANOINTING SPIRIT OF GOD “IN” US IS OUR HOPE OF GLORY, JUST LIKE IT WAS FOR JESUS. WHOEVER HAS THE SPIRIT OF THE FATHER “IN” THEM, HAS BECOME A HEIRS AND JOINT HEIRS WITH JESUS, THE…[Read more]

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    Terraricca. …By asking how did GOD DO IT?, only proves you have no idea that GOD CAN “REAVEAL” INTO OUR MINDS TRUTH, ALSO PROVES YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT SPIRITS ARE, AND CAN DO. JESUS SAID GOD IS A SPIRIT, AND ALSO SAID HE WAS “IN” HIM. You can’t understand that it seems, so no wonder you can’t agree with us, and with WHAT JESUS CLEARLY SAID over…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    Nick….Correct, it is GOD, WHO BY HIS SPIRIT ABIDES “IN” all HIS CHILDERN , who BOTH WILLS “AND” DOES OF HIS GOOD PLEASURE, “in” them. Those who are of the world do not understand, that it is the SPIRIT OF GOD THAT “CAUSES” US TO SEEK HIM AND JESUS and also keeps us. JUST AS IT SAYS “THE LORD BLESS YOU “AND” KEEP YOU.

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum John 1:1 10 years, 3 months ago

    Kerwin, both YOU AND Nick are right in what you both are saying to EDJ. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum John 1:1 10 years, 3 months ago

    Terraricca. ….HE IS THE “ONLY BEGOTTEN” AT THIS TIME AND AND AT THE TIME THAT WAS SAID. AND WHEN DID I EVER SAY JESUS WAS NOT THE SON OF GOD, HE WAS a son of God just as Adam was physically, and he was a son of GOD SPERITUALLY, JUST AS WE WHO HAVE THE SPIRIT OF GOD ARE. DI YOU WANT ME TO LIST OVER EIGHTY SCRIPTURES THAT SHOW HIM AS A SON OF MAN…[Read more]

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    Terraricca. ….Quite changing scriptures,i was speaking about what JESUS SAID TO THE SEVEN CHUCHES, DID HE OR DID HE NOT SAY TO THOSE RECIEVINGING IT, TO “HEAR” WHAT THE “SPIRIT” IS SAYING TO THE SEVEN CHUCHES. WHY DO YOU HAVE SUCH TROUBLE STAYING WITH SUBJECT MATTER?, A simple answer will do, did Jesus say, “hear” what the “spirit” is saying…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum John 1:1 10 years, 3 months ago

    NICK…YOU AND KERWIN ARE RIGHT? JESUS is a son of GOD JUST AS WE ARE, THROUGH RECIEVING THE SPIRIT OF GOD INTO US, WHICH GIVES US THE RIGHT TO pray “OUR FATHER WHICH IS IN HEAVEN”. JUST THE SAME AS JESUS DID, We have become brother of JESUS, through that SAME ABIDING SPURIT OF OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. WE do not seperate Jesus’ idenity from our…[Read more]

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    Terraricca. ..UNLESS you are willing to see where you may be wrong, what can anyone do? We offer you SPRITUAL TRUTHS, butyou just ignore it, even Jesus said the words he was speaking to us was not his words, but the words of the Father who was “iñ” him. Now if the words were not his words and if GOD IS A SPIRIT, and was speaking through the MAN…[Read more]

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    Edj. …you are wrong they are not the same SPIRIT, THE CHRISTO’S IS THE ANOINTIBG SPIRIT OF GOD, WHICH CAME INTO JESUS AT HIS BAPTIZEM BY JOHN AT THE JORDAN RIVER. Jesus has a spirit of man in him just as we do, and we must also like him recieve the SPIRIT OF GOD inorder to overcome “AS” HE DID.

    peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

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    Terraricca. ….JESUS TOLD PETER, IT WAS GOD THE FATHER, THAT “REAVEALED” IT TO PETER, AND JESUS ALSO SAID, “GOD WAS SPIRIT” , why is it you are unable to put that together. Who do you think “reavealed” it to PETER, IT could not have been JESUS, because JESUS WAS FLESH AND BLOOD, and JESUS said flesh and blood did not “reaveal” that to…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    Kerwin….THAT IS TRUE.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    Kerwin…”free” will is not predictable, influenced hearts that drive those wills is. Just as in the case of Adam and Eve, GOD know all along they would fall because he knew how he made then and what drives their wills, and he simply used THE SERPANT AS A “CATALYST” to speed up the reaction, that would over time have accured anyway.

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum John 1:1 10 years, 3 months ago

    Terraricca. …Stop and think what you are going to say before you say or write it, your understanding is not of the truth at this time, your holding on to old traditions you have long ago learned from false RELIGIOUS teachers . Truth BEGINS with understanding who JESUS REALLY IS, If you have moved him away from your own “human idenity”, as a…[Read more]

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    TERRARICCA. …. NO SCRIPTURE IN Genesis says GOD created any thing “through” anyone. BUTWE DOHAVE SCRIPTURES THAT SAY THAT GOD CREATED EVERYTHING “BY HIMSELF” AND “ALONE” NEED PROOF? READ Isa 44:24..Thus says the LORD,thy redeemer, and he that formed you form the womb, I am the LORD THAT MAKES “ALL” THINGS; THAT SCREACHED forth the heaven…[Read more]

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    Terraricca…..question was how do you get JESUS DOING THE CREATING IN Gen 1:1-3, what i kbow is this that GOD ALMIGHTY SAID LET THERE BELIGHT AND IT WAS SO, and i seeno mention of JESUS SAYING THAT AS YOU FALSELY TEACH. AND JOHN 1: 1-3 isnot talking about JESUS BUT GOD THE FATHER HIMSELF. Anyone who does not understand this is not abiding in the…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    Kerwin….TRUE, BUT GOD STILL SUBJECTED IT TO VANITY, why, would he have allowed mankind to be decieved in the first place, and if we say GOD KNOWS THE END FROM THE BEGINNING, then he must have known and planned for man to fall, so man could become more like him, in knowing good and evil. I believe it is all a creative process in teaching us…[Read more]

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    Terraricca…..The one changing scripture is you, there is no mention of JESUS IN ANY OF THOSE SCRIPTURE YOU QUOTED, You simply force the text to say that. Those scriptures are speaking about GOD HIMSELF. NEED PROOF?

    Gen 1:1-3 , in THE BEGINNING “GOD CREATED”, the heaven AND the earth. 2, and the earth was without form, and void; and darkness…[Read more]

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    Terraricca…..Whose truth ,yours or the truth of GOD, GIVEN TO US FROM THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH. YOU “QUOTE A BUNCK OF SCRIPTURES THAT MOST OF THE TIME HAS “NOTHING” TO DO WITH TGE SUBJECT MATTER, AND EVEN WORSE YOU FAIL TO EVEN EXPLAN HOW THEY DO RELATE TO IT.

    DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK COPING scripture after scripture without any explanation make you…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 3 months ago

    Nick….I tend to agree with kerwin on this, scripture shows it is a body we are raised with, and we know a spirit is not itself a body, also his point of scripture saying it is the sin “in” the flesh that is being done away with, through the effectual working of the spirit of GOD is valid point.

    Another point NICK, where it says flesh and blood…[Read more]

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