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    TOGEL….Why do you deny the words of JESUS, WAS IT A GOD, THAT SAID HIS WORDS WERE NOT “HIS” WORDS, BUT THE WORDS OF THE ONE WHO SENT HIM?, WHO SENT YOUR GOD JESUS, WAS IT HIMSELF OR SOME OTHER GOD? BY THE WAY I AND NOT AN IDOLATAR , I HAVE “ONLY” “ONE” GOD” and it is the same GOD Jesus has. or have you forgot what JESUS TOLD MARY, “go tell…[Read more]

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    TOGEL….Why do you deny the words of JESUS, WAS IT A GOD THAT SAIDHIS WORDS WERE NOT HIS WORDS BUTTHE ONE WHO SENT HIM? WHOSENTYOUR GOD JESUS WAS IT HIMSELF OR SOMEOTHER GOD? BY THE WAY I AND NOT AN IDOLATAR , I HAVE ONLY “ONE” GOD” and it is the same GOD Jesus has. or have you forgot whatJESUS TOLD MARY, “go tell them i am going to “MY” GOD AND…[Read more]

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    hoghead1….THE trinitarian creed is, 1, God the Father, 2, GOD the Son, 3, God the spirit, these limit GOD TO A GROUPING OF THREE, right?, Firist of all that is in error, because GOD the father himself IS SPIRIT, AND AS SPIRIT CAN INDWELL “ALL”, OR HAVEN’T YOU EVER READ WHERE IT SAY THIS, “THAT GOD MAYBE “ALL’ AND “IN” YOU ALL”, and again,…[Read more]

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    hoghead1….THE trinitarian creed is, 1, God the Father, 2, GOD the Son, 3, God the spirit, these limit GOD TO A GROUPING OF THREE, right?, Firist of all that is in error, because GOD the father himself IS SPIRIT, AND AS SPIRIT CAN INDWELL “ALL” OR HAVEN’T YOU EVER READ WHER IT SAY THIS, “THAT GOD MAYBE “ALL’ AND “IN” YOU ALL”, and again,…[Read more]

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    TOGEL……JESUS SAID “GOD IS SPIRIT”, THAT WHICH JESUS HAD WAS THE FATHER IN HIM, AND THE SAME FATHER CANE BE IN US ALSO, or “know younottgat the father was in him, andcanbe in you also, there by we say “ABBA FATHER”. THERE IS NO TRINITY AND JESUS IS NOW AND ALWAY WAS A SON OF MANKIN,NO MATTER WHO FATHERED HIM IN HUMAN WOMAN. HE NEVER…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum The Trinity Doctrine 10 years, 1 month ago

    942767……THAT LAST VIDO IS EXACTLY RIGHT, A Trinitarian is an IDOLATAR. NO TWO WAY ABOUT IT, TURNING THE IMAGE OF JESUS INTO A GOD IS IDOLATRY . 2 THS 2.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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    hoghead…..THE very word trinitarian clearly proves it is not monotheism, the very symbols they use proves it clearly. THERE is one God, and he “Only’ is “true” God ,there is no other GOD, ANY BELIFE of JESUS as a God i IDOLATERY. AND John the apostle said clearly “to keep ourselves from IDOLS. 2 THS 2 SHOW THAT IT IS JESUS who is the only man…[Read more]

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    kerwin…..YOU HAVE it right ,because JESUS HAS THE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD ON HIM AND THE SEVEN HORNS “POWERS” TO GO ALONG WITH THEM HE CAN OPERATE AS GOD THE FATHER HIMSELF, IT IS THESE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD THAT HE WILL USE TO BRING ABOUT THE KINGDOM OF GOD ON THIS EARTH AT HIS RETURN. BUT AT THE END OF HIS RULE HE TRUNS IT ALL BACK TO GOD AND…[Read more]

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    hoghead1……Not ambiguous to me in fact it is one of the most unambiguous scriptures in our bible texts, it is clearly written and accurate and clearly stated by JESUS himself. IT is not the only scripture that clearly shows us that there is “ONLY ONE TRUE GOD” , there are many more that say the samething. But if you have a mind set based on…[Read more]

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    kerwin..is right T8, WHY DO YOU BELIEVE HE WAS THE SAVIOR BEFOR HE BECAME IT, NOR WAS HE A CHRISTO’S UNTILL HE BECAME ANOINTED no scripture shows and anointing of the spirit until he recieved it at the Jordan river. Yes that was his destiny even befor he came into existence it was his destiny, even from the foundations ofthe earth was that his…[Read more]

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    hoghead1…..I have not seen any answer,i went back and checked.

    So what did Jesus mean whe he said in pryer to GOD THE FATHER, “YOU” ARE THE “ONLY” “TRUE”, GOD’, JOHN 17:3, NOW if the God he was praying to was the “ONLY” “TRUE” GOD, then it followes Jesus did not believe he or anyone else was a true God of anykind, in fact that renders all…[Read more]

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    hoghead1…..please answer my last post to you.

    peace and love to you and yours. …….gene

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    TOGEL…..What you are doing is just going along with present christanity’s views,not realizing that many scriptures have been, writen by trinitarians who force the text to meet their false views of JESUS PREEXISTING HIS BERTH AS WELL AS HIM BEING A GOD, WHO SOMEHOW WAS “MORPHED” INTO A HUMAN BODY. They forced the text say what the actual…[Read more]

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    TOGEL…..GOD is spirit and can appear anywhere, that is to say his pesents can, not that he is physically vissiable. scriptures tells that no man can see God and live. and no one has ever seen him, why?, because he is spirit and spirits cannot be physically seen, but can be present and even be “iñ” a person, GOD WHO IS SPIRIT was “IN” the…[Read more]

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    TOGEL……Then where God says, “he “alone” and “by himself” created the world and all that is in it”, in ISSIAH, IS A LIE right? AND WHERE JESUS said in prayer “you are the “only” true God”, was he lying also to us? There is not a single scripture that says JESUS himself was a God of anykind. but plenty as wellas his own words show, he was…[Read more]

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    TOGEL……THE where God say he “alone” and “by himself” created the world and all that is in it”, in ISSIAH, IS A LIE right? AND WHERE JESUS said in prayer “you are the “only” true God”, was he lying to us? There is not a single scripture that says JESUS himself was a God of anykind. but plenty show he was not a GOD, but we are told, that…[Read more]

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    kerwin, that is right, even though that was JESUS DESTNY from his berth, it didn’t happened untill it took place.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

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    Togel……JESUS IS THE FIRST AND EXACTLY LIKE THE LAST, OF THOSE RESURECTED FROM THE DEAD.

    IN ISSIAH, IT IS GOD SPEAKING, NOT JESUS.., and where it say “his” redeemer it is referencing ISREAL’S REDEEMER , IT is not talking about the man JESUS.

    GOD ALMIGHTY IS THE ALPHA AND OMEGA THE FIRST OF “ALL” THINGS, AND THE LAST OF “ALL” THINGS. WITHOUT…[Read more]

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    hoghead1….WHERE it say you are GOD’S is given in a possessive sense, as GOD’S people. IT is not saying they are actually A GOD. JESUS said in prayer, “for thou are the “only” true God’, leaving all other so-called God’s as false God’s, seeing there is only one “true” GOD. IMO

    peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 10 years, 2 months ago

    T8…..NO ONE IS DENYING THAT THAT WAS INDEED THE VERY PURPOSE OF JESUS AT HIS BERTH, BUT THE QUESTION IS WHEN DID ALL THAT TAKE PLACE, YOU BELIEVE IT ALREADY HAPPENED, WE BELIEVE THAT WAS HIS DESTINY FROM BERTH. When did Jesus save us was it at his berth or after he dided for us, same applies about his anointing, it did not happen until it…[Read more]

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