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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Trinity Doctrine is an unnecessary stumbling block in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Jael, good to hear you brother, yes i believe The word of God which is God came to be “in” THE MAN Jesus, i do not believe the word actually became flesh, because God who is “spirit” was “in” the “man” Jesus . While spirits can live in “flesh” they can never be flesh. Jesus was indeed the servant and son of the Living God, who God the Father…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Miia, well said, Jesus told us to have salt in ourselves and peace also, so we all need to be ourselves, but still maintain peace and love for one another, especially those of the house hold of God. IMO
peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic What is Man? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 3 months ago
T8….It takes more than one misunderstood scripture to make a true point, espically when some of the words used there have many, many different meanings in the Greek language, you must put all scriptures together to find truth. Many scriptures show Jesus never created anything, Jesus never said once he created anything or anything about his life…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years, 3 months ago
T8….what do you do with scriptures that say “God was “in” Jesus reconciling the world unto himself”. And again where jesus said, the son of man can do “nothing” of himself, the Father who is in him “he” does the works”. And again , “the words i am telling you are “not” my words but the words of him who sent me.
T8, tell us who spoke this, “…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Nick….To me the best scriptures that clearly explains it, is John 5:24-29
Notice what Jesus say about hearing his words (and) believes on him that sent him, (God the Father) has (present tense) everlasting life and shall not come to condemnation; but is passed (present tense) death unto life.
Verse 25, deals with those who are spiritualy dead…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Nick…You need to read more, “though he die” (yet) shall he live. As i recall Jesus said that also, so Jesus was speaking from what you quote from the point of eternal death, or “parishing” not a temporal death. That he often compared to a sleep state, Nick when a man dies he ceases to funtion in any capacity other scriptures support that also,…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Nick….They are not to separate things being mentioned there, it is speaking about the same thing, Jesus soul, his complete being, a body and breath of life in it. When a man dies his thoughts “parish”, i hardly think that means still living Nick. That is what those scriptures are saying to me. Why even have a resurection if it is not needed?…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Upon this rock, Jesus Christ built his Church in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
T8…..AMEN, LOVE RESETS EVERYTHING, MAKES ALL THING NEW AGAIN. HOW BLESSED WE ARE TO HAVE A HEAVENLY FATHER WHO IS LOVE.
Peace and love to you and yours. …….gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Nick… No scripture says Jesus’ “soul” left his body, that is a speculation brother on your part, not scripturally written. There is not a scripture that says a soul ever leaves a body, because a soul is a body with the breath of life “in” it, according to scriptures. Is it not prophesied in scripture, that God would not leave Jesus’ soul in…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Nick….Yes Jonah, was carried by the great fish God had prepared to a pit but was he dead? Who knows. He did remain there for three days and three nights, no scripture says he was dead though. So it would only be an assumption to say he was actually dead, right Nick?
Jesus was just using the analogy of his time in the grave “dead” before he…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic What is Man? in the forum Scriptural Teachings 8 years, 3 months ago
T8….Not a single scripture say Jesus was alive before his berth on this earth, the glory he had with God , was his prophesied glory that he was to inherit, and after his resurection he did inherit it. Why can’t you see it was planned glory for Jesus that God the Father purposed for him, the same glory is also purpose for us also, we have it…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Is Hell eternal? in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Nick….I do believe Jesus, and he said he was “dead”, does dead mean we are still alive? I alway though a man is either dead or alive, and i don’t think being dead means you are still alive, or maybe Jesus lied when he said he was dead but i don’t think so. Scripture says when a man dies his thoughts parish, so if his thoughts parish how does he…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Mikeboll64…. Hi, glad to hear from you again, hope all is well with you. Would like very much to contact Kerwin, if you have any information i would appreciate it, and any of the others also, like Terricca, Lightenup, Martin, not3in1, or any of them, let us know how to reach them, or if you hear from them let them know we would like the back on…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why challenge the Trinity Doctrine – The Trinity Doctrine in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Nick…The trinity is indeed a “IDOLATROUS” TEACHING, brought about by deluded people under Greek platonic influences Forcing our scriptural text to say what it Infact is not saying. Blind guides leading the blind through the fallen churches. The call of God Is to come out of her that they recieve not of her plagues, a (deluding…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Edj….Jesus did came forth “from” Bethlehem that was he berth place and his comming into being, and yes his comming forth was from everlasting because, God who is everlasting planed his berth and even fathered him into existence before the foundations of the earth it was planned, He was a prophecied human being, just as Moses said “the LORD…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Nick….Our temptations come from us, haven’t you read what James said? A man is tempted by his “own” lust. There is only two ways of life to live ,one is good and the other is evil, clean or unclean, that the only options available. Thats the only choices we have and that is what is influencing us rhe most. God did not tell the d-evil to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Nick….I disagree with you about saying that a person must soak up scriptures for years before the holy spirit gives you understanding. The basic understanding about salvation can be delievered in only a few minutes as Scriptures demonstrates, OVER 3000 at one time in only a few minutes of preaching, (Day of Pentecost ), AND REMEMBER Philip and…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
Nick….Thats why I said i was not trying to use that scripture as a doctrine, brother. But scripture does also say,”that God has put “all” things under the foot of man, and in that he saith “all” things, there in “nothing” that is not under the foot of man, says scripture right? So one could speculate a little i guess. It’s hard for me to imagine…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Firstborn of/over all creation in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 3 months ago
To all…. The spirit of Christ, is not saying Jesus’ spirit he was born with, but the spirit he recieved into him when he was baptized at the Jordan River, better translated as “the spirit of the anointing” which is the spirit Jesus recieved and the same spirit the Saints have recieved also. Thats the way i see it.
Peace and love to you all…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The serpent in the Garden of Eden in the forum Truth or Tradition 8 years, 4 months ago
Nick….Yes God “could” protect every single word written, but did he?, the more the words are subject to translators of different religious persuazions like trinitarians and others who are not under the influence of the Spirit of truth. They can be changed, some words even have as maney as ten to twenty different meanings in the Greek language…[Read more]
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