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    TC….IF YOU READ Issiah where that was quoted from , you will find it was a sign to the King of Judah, to show the king that God was with him, to deliever them from the invading armies.

    The only way GOD was with us was he through the anointing spirit JESUS recieved at the Jordan river, now that Spirit which was GOD M WAS FROM ETERNITY. Jesus…[Read more]

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    Anthony and LU…..What Jodi and Nick and I, are, AND HAVE BEEN telling you is true, you need to repent and come out of the “mystery religion” you have blindly fell into. YOU are in the wide way that leads to destruction, you need to find the narrow gate, the straight path that leads to life. The one that is beibg offered to you now.

    Peace and…[Read more]

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    Nike, produce one ortopsy report that says anyone has died of aluminum oxide posining. Everthing else you are assuming about “chem-trails” is another of you paronid assumptions. No real evidence just hearsay by others like yourself, same with this FE, PARNOIA.

    As far as some vapor trails lasting longer the others, it all depends on the air at…[Read more]

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    TC….I think you and Nick are saying the same thing, we know the spirit of the CHRIST (anointing), is the anointing Spirit of God, which we also have recieved from the FATHER, and now are Sons of God, the same way Jesus, IS A SON OF GOD ALSO. Same Spirit from the Same God who is our heavenly Father in us all by his Spirit that abides in…[Read more]

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    TC…Another good post brother, yes we are to die daily to our flesh, and live to the spirit of God.

    Whosoever ever shall save “his life” shall lose it, whosoever shall lose “his life” shall save it.
    He that hates not his mother, sister, brother, and “his life”, also, can not be my deciple.

    Peace and love to you and yours. ……gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years ago

    Anthony….that is not the Gnostic’s view at the time of the apostles John and Paul. They as you are mixing up the modern gnostic, view with the original views. They are completely different.

    The origibal gnostic views were

    1….Jesus was always a GOD

    2….He was sent forth from the “PLORA’ of the GOD’S to straighten out what the God Demurage…[Read more]

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    Deg4….a pillar is simply a support that helps carry weight, the mantel or crust of the earth can be considered as a pillar, so whats that got to do with a “FLAT EARTH?

    I THINK THE PARNOIA may be more the problem here, seening ever thing you guys have produced has already be disproven over and over, and seeing you guys also believe in othwr…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years ago

    Anthony, the Gnostic’s at the time of Paul and John only had one view and that was that Jesus was a God sent from the pelora of the GOD’S. ALSO that he was only desguised as a manm but was really a GOD. THE denied his need to recieve the anointibg spirit, reasoning that he was already GOD, and so did not need to baptized and recieve the spirit of…[Read more]

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    To all….THE SPIRIT OF CHRIST, is the spirit of the anointing. The anointing spirit of God, which Jesus recieved at the Jordan river when his was baptized.

    Peace and love to you all and yours. ……gene

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years ago

    ANTHONY, I NEVER SAID Jesus is a GOD, I have been arguing aganst that for over 50 yars now, i do not believe Jesus is a God and preexisted at all nor do ibelieve he was just desguised as a human ast h e taught. No if any fit their beliefs here it you, because you as they believe Jesus came fromthe pelora as a GOD OR A DEMIGOD OF SOME KIND, i never…[Read more]

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    T8….The guy i know was also a regular marajuana user to, interesting. Hay Mike do you and Dg4, use marajuana regulary? I have heard reports that it can produce parnoid side effects.

    Just courious Mike and Dg4, not trying to accuse you guy’s of it.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

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    Mike…vapor trails are a result, of mosture in the air going through a super heated jet engine, and turning to steam, the heart from thoses engines caust “vapor” trails, espically where the atmospheric conditions contain a lot of mosture, just like if you boil water it turns to steam as it condenses.

    It has nothibg to do with chimicals our…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years, 1 month ago

    Anthony. ..your mixing up the GNOSTIC’S OF TODAY, WITH THE GNOSTIC’S OF THE APOSTLES DAY, COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GROUPS AND THERE BELIFS. I have studied in depth about the gnostics of the apostles day and there teachings are completely different then those of today,

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

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    Anthony…..you still do not get it, the Jews of that day trusted that because they were decedents of Abraham they had a spical connection with GOD, JESUS was simply telling them he is more important to them then Abraham is. The actual original Greek text says as i remember, says “i am before Abraham” and was given in more of a sense of importance…[Read more]

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    Dig4…..it has been presented many many time, but what good is it, proof not the issue it you chose tobelieves lies it’s mental orientation, if an actual astronaut was right in front of you telling you it would make no difference to you, i actuallbelieve if you yoursel were onrhe ISS, SEEING IT WITH YOUR OWN EYES , YOU STILL WOULD NOT BELIEVE IT…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years, 1 month ago

    Anthony. ..what Nick has said is right brother.

    Peace and love to you and yours. …..gene

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    Deg4….’my” evidence no not my thousand of scientest, astronauts, astronomers, space missions, ISSS PICTURES, NOT EVEN TO MENTION THOUSANDS OF PROOF, ON THE INTERNETS BY PEOPLE FAR MORE ADVANCED IN THESE DECIPLINES THEN YOU OR I EVER WERE. Just look at the proof of people here have produced like myself and T8. NO dig4, it’s you people who have…[Read more]

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    Anthony. …saying i am before a person is not the same as saying i was “born” before that person. If we were in a line and i was in front of you could not i say, before Anthony i am, that would have nothing to do with me being born before you now would it. In fact, if i were to reference a berth i would say i was “born” before you, so would have…[Read more]

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    Anthony. ..those Pharisies alway misunderstoof Jesus, because it was not given to them to understand t h e truth of God, Jesus spoke to them only in parables so they wouldn’t understand what he was saying, the hearing they hear not, and seening they see not, as Isiah the prophets said.

    Had Jesus meant he was alive before ABRAHAM he wouls have…[Read more]

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    GeneBalthrop replied to the topic in the forum Preexistence 8 years, 1 month ago

    Anthony. …your mixing up what present day Gnostic’s say, with the Gnostic’s of PAUL AND JOHNS DAY SAID.

    Your also mixing up the two covenants the old , where God was a husband to the ISREALITES. That old covenant is not the same as the new covenant.

    You also add words to what is written in scripture to try to shore up your doctrines. No…[Read more]

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