Anthony, there are may scriptures that prove Jesus was a decent of king David, infact JESUS HIMSELF SAID HE WAS.  Face the truth you simply do not believe scriptures , you are forcing scriptures to say what infact they do not say.

The problem here is when God has sent a deluding spirit into a man inorder to believe  a “LIE”  , it is impossible th…[Read more]

Jodi…..BEAUTIFULLY PUT, but they just don’t get it. There God is Jesus , our God and JESUS’  God,  is God the Father, who he trusted in AS we also trust in.  We are growing IN SPIRIT to be one with JESUS AND THE FATHER, they are not, because they cannot TRULY relate with, our lord and brother Jesus,  whom GOD THE FATHER RAISED FROM THE DEA…[Read more]

Anthony……when I say Jesus was a son of man I mean the same as we are , we are all sons of man  ‘meaning son of mankind’ which means he was a flesh and blood human being, born through same berth process as we are.  When I say he was an ordinary human being,  it’s referencing his physical makeup his human roots, it had nothing  to do with his…[Read more]

Anthony,  everyone here but you knows what a son of man means. Do you really think we are that stupid?,   son of man is not a title either as you supose,  a “son of man” is exactly what his is.  It has  nothing to do with somekind of title.

Man to what extent you preexistiners will go to, to spread you “mystery religion “.  There exist not a sing…[Read more]

TC…..You certanily have that right, JESUS is the firstborn of the ‘new  creation’ of God, and all things are made for him and  for all who have the anointing  Spirit of God on them at their resurection,   JESUS THE FIRST FRUIT, AND WE AT HIS COMMING. ALL Things are made for MANKIND, JESUS FIRST THEN THE REST AT THE RESURECTION.

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Anthony, TC……talk about “mystery religion”, man, I never saw so much added to scriptures as you people are adding,  to push you preexistence thelogies,  why not use the most simple reasons, the reason Melchizedek’s genogoligy was not known ,was because it was not given,  that does not mean he did not have one, it just was not given in sc…[Read more]

T8…..so you deny all the other scripture that show that God “himself” created the world and everything in it.  You hang up is on the word (through) , it has other meanings that could apply , like for instance ‘for the sake of’  or for the purpose of the resurected JESUS, and the resurected, who will inherit eternal life. That was his overall p…[Read more]

Jodi….They simply do not get it sis. Very good post and explanations along with it, You have done all you could do. The called and chosen understandwhat you are saying, the rest never have had it in the first place,  their understanding is darkened.  If the Spirit of truth was in them they would be rejoicing in what you have written.

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Anthony…….THE GNOSTIC’S  at the time of the apostles believed and preached JESUS WAS A GOD, THAT HE CAME FROM THE PLORA OF THE GOD. TO STRAIGHTEN OUT WHAT THE FIRST GOD HAD DID,  YOU have completely changed what they taught.  YOU ARE LYING AND DISTORTING TRUTH. PLEASE PRODUCE YOU SOURCES THAT SURE IS NOT WHAT I HAVE READ.

The Gnostic’s we…[Read more]

Nick…..if you going to say I said something please say it right, I said the body with the spirit of life in it was a living soul, so does scripture, Gen 2:7.

Scripture also said there are seven spirit of God, Rev 3:1, Rev 4:5,  now if you believe God who is spirit as Jesus said, was in him, then how was he in him, if not by his seven spirits.…[Read more]

Nike……what this got to do with anything, about the flat earth, you espouse. No one cares if what Hawings machine was doing or not.  There are many thing people don’t know about clearly, unless they go and explore them in depht. Being gullible about such things dosen’t apply to those thing we don’t care about. It thing like ” chemtrails, flat…[Read more]

TC….what the point, you are unable to even take direct scriptures and believe them without changing them to fit your personal dogmas. It you can’t even understand simple clear scriptures without changing them,  whats the point ?

Jodi and I have both descussed yours with you, and posted to you clear scriptures but you have fail to descuss…[Read more]

TC…..you said all the words in parented are your even if you completely change word and meanings, we do agree with you on that. As Jodi told you you can make the bible say anything If you switch meanings around. You rely on your own ability to get your understandings, we rely on the “SPIRIT OF TRUTH”,  we have recieved from God to reveal the…[Read more]

TC…..SO you did not say Jesus dumped his body going to heaven? What the difference you still say he is no longer a flesh and bone bodied man, so whats the difference.  Show us how a body is changed to spirit, and still be a “body” of anykind. You force the text to say what in fact it dosen’t say.

Who said you said, spirits were drifting…[Read more]

Nick…..none of that say a ” body” is changed to a spirit or even exchanged for one. It say s this “mortal’ must “put on” immortality. GET IT, the only being changed is from a mortal (BODY) to a immortal (BODY) bodies are not spirits.

Peace and love to you and yours ……..gene

TC…. SPIRITS are not “bodies” bodies are visible objects, SPIRIT are what inhabit bodies,   and no scripture say Jesus dumped his body on the way to heaven , that is just you and others speculations, you people offer no scriptural proof.

When the apostles thought he was a spirit that appeared to them after he was resurected, what did he say?, “…[Read more]

TC…..There are “seven spirits of God” all seven act as one.  ONE GOD WHO IS COMPOSED OF  SEVEN SPIRITS, hence a uni-plural. JUST AS A MAN IS COMPOSED OF SEVERAL MEMBERS WORKING AS ONE, SO I BELIEVE IS GOD, GOD IS SPIRIT HAVING SEVEN SPIRITS WITH POWERS ,THAT HE USES IN CREATION. So he could have been relating to his seven spirits.

Peace and l…[Read more]

TC…..I agree with Jodi, you are teaching falsehood. Your ‘essence’ arguments are simply your renditions, and are not proven nor grounded in scriptures, your switching subject matter of what Paul was actually saying to fit your own formulated doctrines. Forcing text is bad form TC. We try to draw our understandings from both the new and the old…[Read more]

Truthcomber. …..The change Paul is talking about is not a different “kind” of body ,but our same bodies are changed  from “mortal” to “inmortal”, just as he said, “for this corruptible must put “ON” incoruption, so whats being changed?, our present bodies from (coruption to incoruption) where does it say the body itself is done away with.

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NICK…..No , but I think GOD IS PLEASED WITH WHAT HE HAS ALREADY MADE, NO NEED TO CHANGE MANKIND INTO A  Completely, DIFFERENT CREATURE. As you think. I would say it is you who are limiting God, not me brother. You see I believe, my God is quiet able to perfect his human creation, and our example is Jesus. You on the other hand believe he must…[Read more]