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GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 9 months ago
Anthony, there are no two Yahweh’s there is “only” one. You have been tricked into believing there is more then “one” God, You will never even begin to see the truth if you believe that. Why not just start believing what Jesus himself said and start afresh, go slow, here is a start for you, now ask yourself if you truly believe this ok.,
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Edj…..”no” JESUS WAS NOT THE SON Of GOD AT HIS BIRTH. Scripture say that holy ( set apart) “thing” in you “SHALL” be called the Son gof God”. Jesus was born of the root and offspring of King David, just as he said he was. My question to you then, did Jesus say “I “am”, the root and offspring of king David? Now if he truly was of the root…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Carmel…..I explained that to you already, please notice Jesus did not say to “hate” the “person”, he said to hate their lives aand there own “lives” also. That is not talking about hating the “person”. We are to love the “person, even if we hate the life the lives” Get it brother? remember, we are to love our enimies, do good to them who desp…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Anthony, I believe Jesus was born of the flesh as the root and offspring of King David, I also believe he was a ordinary human being just like we are at birth, I believe he was born “again” at the Jordan river as a “spritual” son of God.
I believe just as he was born again, so must we be, he was born a flesh and blood human, exactly as we a…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
T8…..wrong if our will themselves are truly free, then there would be no “outside” factors. Remember we are not talking about a will being under a influence, when we say the will is “free” , there exist no such thing as a “freewill”, in the sence of the will “itself” being free, our wills c are being held captive by what is most infl…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Carmel…..JESUS NEVER CHANGED HIS MESSAGE, you are simple not perceiving what he is saying peoperly brother. That is my point to you. And others.
Peace and love to you and yours……..gene
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
CARMEL…..I don’t know what you are driving at, Jesus never counterdicted himself. Those scriptures are easy to understand in the proper contexts they were used. They make perfect sense to me.
Do you want to descuss anyone of them, I can easely explain them to you. For example Jesus said if a man come to me and “hate” not his father, and m…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic John 3 Born Again in the forum Scriptural Teachings 6 years, 9 months ago
TC…..So Jesus was lying when he said over 100 times he “was” a son of man? Interesting Jesus says one thing, you say he was only “LOOKED” like, a “son of man” . So when Jesus says, “when the son comes in the clouds”, at his return, he is lying to us, he only “looks like one” , right? IT’S AMAZING TO ME HOW YOU PEOPLE FLIP AROUND PAIN…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Carmel…..Yes but that mystery was what God had in mind for mankind, SENSE THE BEGINING OF HIS CREATION. That mystery was that a “human”, being would be born to mankind, that would save mankind from their sins, that “mystery” that was from the beginning, was made known to us all, through the GOSPEL MESSAGE.
That ‘mystery had nothing to do wi…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Anthony, I know it’s a waste of time by the “spirit of truth ” given me. My suggestion to you Anthony is throw away all the ‘mystery religion” garbage you have been taught over the years and start afresh brother. You have been feed a pack of lies, if you WORSHIP Jesus as YOUR GOD, YOU HAVE REJECTED THE “FIRST COMMANDMENT” , and trust me anyon…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
TC…..The word “of God” came true, as the “flesh” man Jesus, that was the word of God promised us, yes it did come true.
And the words he spoke to was was given him by GOD THE FATHER, through the “holy spirit” at his anointing after he was baptized by John in the Jordan river. God the father who is spirit, came to dwell “in” Jesus just as J…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
T8…..Is that not what you and others are doing? The difference is we have given you many scriptures to support what we are saying, you on the other only produce one sentence. Jodi and I have went through so many scriptures clearly explaining them, over and over, that anyone should understand the truth, but you people refuse to acknowledge th…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
ANTHONY, again do you believe Jesus ? What did he say , the Father is “in” me, , yes I do believe God the Father was “in” him. That being said, did Jesus ever say he was the God that was “in” him, yes/no please’ Jesus also said the son of man can so “nothing” of himself, the Father who is “in” me “He” does the work. Now if you put that to…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Edj……The present tense is, “this day is born unto you”, the rest was to fulfill the prophesy give Israel. Common sense should tell you Jesus was not anointed that day as a Messiah, and even if you believed that ,then why would he have to be anointed again ? OR do you and T8 Deny he was “anointed” with the holy spirit at the Jordan, afte…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Anthony, just answer the question , do you believe what Jesus said, I am the root and offspring of king David. No need to go all around the place to answer a simple question. Do you believe what Jesus says, why do you work so hard to get around so many thing he says, and feel you must add all kinds of things to them?
Peace and love to you and yo…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
T8……you or no one else hear has ever seen a flesh word, please if you have , I would like to “see” that. GOD’S WORD became flesh when?, it was when Jesus a flesh man came into his “only” true existence, it was the word of God fulfilled, that became the flesh man jesus. But that never ever made Jesus himself God’s word , as your “myste…
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic Why is Jesus called the second Adam if you say he came from Adam??? in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Anthony, I just quoted to you what Jesus himself said, he clearly said he is the root and “offspring” of King David. The question is, do you believe what Jesus himself said? You problem is you have turned over you mind to false teachers so long you have sold yourself to them. Sad Anthony, but you can always repent and I hope you do.
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
T8…..We are offering you true perception of scriptures and the proper context they are given, Jesus “will be” or can be “called” the word of God, not because he “is” The word of God “himself”, but because he speaks God the Fathers “words” to us, so in that context he will be called the words of God, Jesus also is the word of God “ful…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
T8…..You change “the man Jesus” to being the “word of God” that is a big change. , we preach Jesus as a man, just like us, born of a women, comming into his “only” existence, as we did, through a birth process of a women. You on the other hand say he “preexisted” as the “word” God used to make every thing “through” and was “morphed” some…[Read more]
GeneBalthrop replied to the topic The Ordinary Jesus Brigade in the forum Truth or Tradition 6 years, 9 months ago
Edj…..It sure does say “shall” be called, your problem is not know when the shall be took place, as Jodi and I have clearly shown you, it was when the word of God said, after Jesus’ recieved the anointing Spirit of God on him, and the voice from God said “this is my “son” , hear you him”.
We also must be Born again from above by the spiri…[Read more]
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