Mike…..the word of God “became flesh”,  that doe not mean Jesus  an enity other then God was existing with God in the beginning. It means Gods word about a flesh man has came about, it was the flesh man Jesus.  Jesus was never GOD’S WORD, he plainly said the words he spoke to us were “not his”.   He is called the word of God because he spea…[Read more]

Jodi…..Another perfect post. May God the Father continue to guide and strenthen you in the truth. Your doing a great Job sis.

Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

Berean…..your posted  song is living proof of how, fallen Christanity has , robbed GOD the Father, and paid Jesus , as  2ths2, clearly shows the apostate church would do, something Jesus never did. He gave God the Father “all” the Glory, saying “I have glorified you upon the earth.”

Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

Berean, go read  Jodi’s post  # 862070 it’s right on,   it is amazing to me how you people can not understand that.  But it does prove the point,  whom  God has blinded,  they are truly blind.

You and others are not seiousely taking time to read and consider what we are saying, no matter how clear we present it, as long as you do that you will ne…[Read more]

T8…..We all came from God, saying that, “Jesus can from God”,   has nothing to do with Jesus “prexisting” his berth on this earth.  If you can’t see  Jesus as coming into his “only” true existence , as a human being,  “exactly” as we did, you simply do not believe in the true Jesus of scriptures, but have bought into the biggest “lie” ever t…[Read more]

T8…..what do you mean “that dosen’t negate his origin, that “is” his orgin.  Did not Jesus himself say “I am the root and offspring  of David”. 

That to me is your biggest problem T8, your not seeing Jesus as a total human being comming into his “only existence”,  “exactly as we do” in “everyway”,  he is a truly perfected human being, an [Read more]

T8…..The reason Jesus is “called”, the word of God, is because he brings to us GOD’S WORDS ,  he is the “mediator” between God and mankind.   Remember what Jesus said, “the words I am telling you are “NOT” MY WORDS, but the words of him who sent me.”.

If they were his words then that would mean he is expressing his own will on us,  but he nev…[Read more]

Mike…. you say you believe in the preexistence of Jesus. Can you produce any scriptures that say he was alive before his existence on this earth, as a human being?

I am not talking about prophetic scriptures of him comming into his existence, but actual scriptures that show any activity or  action of him before berth on this earth.    Also pl…[Read more]

Mike …I would like to know about Kerwin also, I wonder if anyone knows , he had a sever kidney problem, I tride to search for him but was unable to find him.  Would love to know if he is OK .

Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

Berean…..You completely ignored the scripture I posted, as if it weren’t in the scriptures. How can we ever have a honest dialogue if you constantly do that. We should all deal with scriptures others post IMO.

Peace and love to you and yours. ………..gene

Berean. …..Jesus is before us in  all things,  in regards to the kingdom of God,   but he is always subject to God the Father, in authority.

1 Cor 15:27….”for he (God) has put all things under his (Jesus’) feet, it is “manifest” that “he is excepted”, which put “all things” under him.”

Berean are you able to actually understand that scri…[Read more]

Jodi…..They just don’t get it. Their caught up in so much false teachings they simply are unable to understand what scriptures truly and simply say. You can lead them to water but you can’t make them drink. You’ve done a good job explaining it to them, remember the seed falls where ever it falls, those who have the truth in them are greatly…[Read more]

Mike…. I think you and Jodi do agree I also agree with you both. The biggest problem with the rest is,  they are not applying  the word “dia” properly in the text. The word “through” in the English language can imply the very channel  itself,  while in the Greek it implys for the sake of , or purpose of, another words,  like saying “that’s why i…[Read more]

Edj…..no we don’t believe that Go created all things “through” Jesus,  because for one Jesus did not exist till he was born on this earth. We have already produced scriptures that say the “God and alone and by himself ” created everything that exists.  Isa 44:24

The problem is in the word “through” in the Greek that word can be use in many d…[Read more]

A living  soul is a flesh body with the breath of life in it,  the Spirit is the type or kind of cognitive  mind (thinking)  in the living Soul.

Peace and love to you and yours. ……..gene

Lightenup……if you are saying The God who was in Jesus, created all things , that in my opinion would be correct. But God in a person does not make the person God is in,  a God.   Is that what you are saying?

Peace and love to you and yours. ………gene

Mike……AMEN brother. You are exactly right.

Peace and love to you and yours. ……….gene

BEREAN…..”unless you be born again” you can’t inter the kingdom of God,  Jesus was the first of all creation to be born again, the first to be resurected to life eternal from the grave.  He therefore is the first born of all creation.

Non of that ras anything to do with him preexisting pryor to his berth on this earth.  You are still forcing sc…[Read more]

Berean……Mike is right, and so are we,  you still do not understand the Greek word “en” The actual meaning is “for the sake of” another words God created all thing for his  purpose what Jesus was. That was God the Fathers goal from the very start of his physical creation of this earth and everything in it.  It is his further purpose we all bec…[Read more]

Jodi……You are exactly right, and the scriptures completely back you up. You have presented it clearly for those who have eyes to see and ears to hear.

Peace and love to you and yours……..gene