@Danny and Gene,

For Jesus to be of the tribe of Judah and “root/offspring” of David, his daddy had to be a biological descendant of David and Solomon (God said it). Is Jesus’ biological father of the line of David? According to both Matthew and Luke, Jesus’ daddy is the spirit. This makes Jesus a demigod (offspring of a god and mortal), like the…[Read more]

@Gene,

Seriously, you’re telling me to look up what “for” means?!?!? You suddenly have an epiphany and come up with “for” meaning purpose; how about going back a few posts and actually read what I wrote. Because I said “for” introduces a purpose!!!! Then you change from “BECAUSE” to “in place of”?!?!?!? What are you doing?!?!?!

You go o…[Read more]

@Gene,

The verse explicitly says “died for our sins”, not “because of”. What verse(s) am I speaking of? I Cor 15:3, Gal 1:4, I John 2:2, I John 4:10, Heb 2:17, I Pet 2:24, Rev 1:5. When reading these verses I didn’t find, “because of.” Besides, didn’t Jesus say he willingly laid down his life and what was the purpose (in bold for your enjoyment)…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: Your still setting things to your time frame, but not God’s.

Me: Site the passage where God said the Messiah was to come and not do or be anything HE said the Messiah was to do or be; BUT, will do and be a second time. Didn’t find that passage either; why, because it doesn’t exist. I haven’t place anything in a “time frame”; I…[Read more]

@Carmel,

So the “spirit” gave you this understanding and if the “spirit” gave you this understanding, will others be in agreement with you? If no one agrees with what you wrote, it would make what you said a product of your own mind and not of the spirit.

It’s fascinating most here believe they are “filled with the ‘Holy Spirit’” in s…[Read more]

@Gene,

In post 946453 you say we are in agreement with the term “because”, except we’re not. You believe Jesus created a “bridge” between you and God in his death; but, God said I’M right here – come.

You keep talking about the terms “for” and “because” and claiming “for” can mean “because”; except grammatically, “for” introduces a purpose…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: Jesus did not die “for” our sin, he died “because” of our sins

Me: There is so much wrong with this statement; John the baptizer says in John 1:29 “Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!” Don’t you also believe Isa 53 is speaking of the messiah and this “servant” was to die for the transgressions of…[Read more]

@T3

You: The passage from Numbers would be important only when a child’s father was from one tribe (e.g., Benjamin), and the mother was from another (e.g., Simeon). The provision to “number” through the father’s lineage was simply a clean, simple way to settle any potential confusion / disagreement. Because if both mother and father were from th…[Read more]

@Gene,

With all the chords that are being struck right now, it’s like a symphony is playing.

Just stop with the vitriol and answer how Jesus is the “messiah” when, according to Numbers 1:2 “all the congregation of the children of Israel, by their families, by their fathers’ houses, according to the number of the names, every male, one by one;”…[Read more]

@Gene,

I can ask you the same question of why you’re here; when you peddle your own musings as the only truth. How many times have you told others they are wrong and proceed to explain your religious beliefs as if they are the only truth to be had. Remember you were quite pleased with what I was saying when I first joined; but you never asked w…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: tell us how was Israel’s body marred more then anyone else.

Me: tell me what nationality has been persecuted more than the Israelite nation for just being a descendant of the nation? What nationality suffered the same as the Jewish people did during WWII – think holocaust. What nationality has endured wide spread discrimination eve…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: them (then) you say it was saying the David would not suffer the corruption of his body in the grave

Me: That isn’t what you said was it? Going back to post #946389 what you actually said was: “AND WHAT ABOUT THE SCRIPTURE THAT SAY God would not leave his soul in hell to see corruption?”

Seems you changed your wording to “grav…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: you say the book of Plams was a book written “to” David , instead of DAVID writing it.

Me: For those unaware, this is a reference to Psalm 110 and NOT the entire book of Psalms; a book said to be written by multiple authors and not David alone.

For your viewing pleasure Gene:

Riddle me Gene, what does the Hebrew say? Of David a…[Read more]

@Gene,

In nothing you responded with have you supported why you believe what you believe. You have asked no questions, but accuse me of creating “new religious thoughts”; yet these “new thoughts” are anything but new.

You need to look up “gandy dancer”, don’t think it means what you think it does. I can assure you I don’t work on laying railroad…[Read more]

@Gene,

Response to 946389. Covering a lot in this response; hopefully you take the time and read it all; the last comment concerning Isa 53 is the primary focus of this response.

You: what do you do with where it says in Daniel that the Messiah would be cut off in the midst of the week?

Me: Would you listen to what I have to say or would you…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: where does it say that the “Messiah” would do all his work at his “FIRST” APPEARANCE

Me: When did God say the Messiah was to come twice? Where in the Tanakh did God say the Messiah was to show up, not do anything HE said, but will the second time? To claim I’m “adding to the text” is false; I’m adding nothing to anything, but reading…[Read more]

@Gene,

You: but you disagree with him being the true “Messiah” something I know he was and is.

Me: How do you “know” Jesus is? What facts can you give? What proofs are available to support your “belief”? Since the Messiah was first spoken of in the Tanakh one must begin looking here and anything spoken of the Messiah in the Tanakh MUST have be…[Read more]

@Gene,

All those who have made Jesus into their GOD, and worship him as their God, are liars – – TRUTH!!

and are committing “IDOLATRY ” – – YES!! BY NOT WORSHIPING GOD ALONE!!

Will parish, unless they repent – – MOST LIKELY NOT WITH THE SAME UNDERSTANDING, BUT THE BASIC PREMISE, YES!!

They preach Jesus as a “DIVINE PREEXISTING” being as a God…[Read more]

@Jodi,

You: You can’t assure anything, you can’t even acknowledge the clear simple truth that God promised that He WAS GOING TO BECOME a Father unto a seed of David.

Me: Where did God say HE was going to become a father unto the seed of David? What verse are you citing?

@Berean,

Once again you have given nothing to refute or explain why I am wrong. I have explained why you’re wrong and have shown why you’re wrong; and every time you “counter” with cherry picked verses taken out of context. If you cannot substantiate what you believe, why do you believe it?

Because Jesus claimed Isa 61:1 was about himself,…[Read more]