DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 months, 3 weeks ago
It can’t be the same; there was no precedence to give G-d an offering; G-d never established the idea, Cain did and Abel followed his example. This wasn’t a “sin” sacrifice as the word “sin” is first mentioned in verse 7 where G-d tells Cain he has the power and must ruler over it. The only thing that can be established is that it was an…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 months, 3 weeks ago
Are you having an issue with understanding what I wrote or are you NOT reading what I wrote OR did you forget what you asked originally? The question isn’t about “sacrifices and offerings” (church has got a handle of twisting that without any problem); the question is:
What’s the meaning and the why of Cain and Abel’s offering to G-d…[Read more]DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 months, 3 weeks ago
WOW!!!!! You won’t or you can’t!
Besides the question isn’t about “sacrifices and offerings.” The question you posed what was the meaning and the why of the offerings done by Cain and Abel to G-d. And I have no idea “why” they did an offering or the “meaning” behind it! Can’t find an answer to these question doing a search on the…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 months, 3 weeks ago
Just noticed, you origianlly asked why were these offerings made and what did they mean and then you move on to which one was more acceptable; which is it?
Why were the offerings made?
What did the offerings mean?
Why was one more acceptable than the other?
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 months, 3 weeks ago
Why not just answer the question, why dodge and evade by answering a question with a question?
Just answer the question!
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 months, 3 weeks ago
And why was the one accepted and the other rejected; you still aren’t explaining anything…now that’s truly sad!
I keep asking and you keep deflecting; give me your understanding. I can’t refuse something if it hasn’t been presented. This isn’t complicated!
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 months, 3 weeks ago
I’m not convinced you really want to know anything about sacrifices and offerings.
Is that because you can’t explain them? I called myself “christian” for 40 years before walking away and I know what “christianity” taught about sacrifices and offerings. Since you won’t explain what you believe, here is what G-d said.
Why do you think h…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 months, 3 weeks ago
I’ve asked you to explain what I don’t understand and you remain silent. You’re confirming you haven’t an idea of why you believe what you believe; you just believe. Apparently so should everyone else and heaven forbid anyone question what you believe, because you can’t explain it anyways.
By the way, the verse you quote from Jeremiah,…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 months, 3 weeks ago
Gen.4
And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
And in process of time it came to pass, that 👉Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
And👉…DesireTruth replied to the topic light vs darkness in the forum About Believers Place 4 months, 3 weeks ago
Light vs Darkness; Truth vs Lies
Here we are in the season of “celebrating” the “miraculous conception” and birth of the Jesus as told by the writer of Matthew who makes the claim it was the fulfillment of the prophet Isaiah in chapter 7:14.
However, when reading chapter 7 of Isaiah there is nothing of a coming messiah who will be of a “virgin…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 months, 3 weeks ago
I find it amazing today how the “christian” is unable to answer and support their beliefs when those beliefs are challenged. Instead of proving their belief is correct, they deflect or move the “goal post” away from the original topic. My favorite is the double standard of question answering; crying about their questions not being a…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 months, 4 weeks ago
What hilarity!!!! You can’t even answer your own questions!!
Why where these first offerings done and what did they mean?!?!!? I asked to be enlightened and you run from your own statements!!!!
You then accuse me of loosing “sight of a CRUCIAL element that runs throughout the entire Old Testament”, which seems to be “ceremonial law” to…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 months, 4 weeks ago
I MUST answer, is that a joke!!!! From one who refuses to answer questions!
What answer did your religion tell you? Enlighten!
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 4 months, 4 weeks ago
Jesus has already accomplished the essential (Isaiah 53).
You can’t explain Isaiah 53; but you sure do “believe” it’s about the Jesus. Who is the “servant” mentioned in the previous chapters?
Isa 41:8 “But thou, Israel, My servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham My friend
Isa 44:1 “Yet now hear, O Jacob My servant[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 5 months ago
Still waiting for an explanation of Rev 1:1,3 and 22:7,12,20 and that “come quickly” phrase the Jesus utters and never did. It’s been 2000 years, and the “church” is still waiting…”come quickly” must mean wait forever. I asked before, what temple is John measuring in Rev 11; if it’s the second temple, the revelation of John was writt…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic Daily Devotions in the forum Inspirational writings & sermons 5 months, 1 week ago
The 70th week ended with the destruction of the Temple; read Daniel again, this time without your Jesus goggles and the bias planted in your head.
(helpful hint: read the translations from the Hebrew verses the corruption of king Jimmy)
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 1 week ago
So we’re going to toss grammar into a heap of trash and favor our own understanding because we like it better as it fits with our belief system…understood!
I really liked the “One could understand why the word “bar” is used, as a prophetic “wink” to signal the Messiah/Anointed King.” You go with that and keep believing the lie you w…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 2 weeks ago
You think I’m “biased”; have you paid attention to christianities beliefs? You seem to forget, for 40 years I was in christianity; I know the christian talking points. Remember, when I first joined we spared over christian doctrines and beliefs and NOT actual truths.
Anyways, Psalm 2:12 seems to be the sticking point because it says…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Again, you have the power of study at your literal fingertips, resources beyond what any generation has ever had access to, and you choose instead to rely on what you have been told.
Once again you have proven nothing of the Jesus being The Messiah. The “son” is a reference to a king appointed by G-d and a better understanding of thi…[Read more]
DesireTruth replied to the topic One God and One Lord in the forum Bible Texts & Translations 5 months, 3 weeks ago
Then you don’t understand the passage! With your Jesus goggles on, you will never see the truth.
Judaism and christianity are not compatible, they don’t have the same messiah; Judaism has a messiah who will unite the world, bringing peace to all nations, and all serving one G-d; The Messiah, when he comes, will be a human king in D…[Read more]
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