“Luke 17:21, the translation 'within you' and the Greek word entos – did Jesus mean that the Kingdom of God is 'in the hearts of men', as some claim? Luke 17:20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: {with…: or, with outward shew}…[Read more]

“Careful study will show you that the phrase “within you” is a mistranslation. The New King James margin says, “in your midst.” The New English Bible says, “is among you.” The Revised Standard Version says, “in the midst of you.” Christ was telling these carnal men that His kingdom was in their presence.”http://www.thercg.org/articles/knhy.html

“King James Translators' Noteswithin you: or, among you”http://bible.cc/luke/17-21.htm

“Luke 17:21″Within” is translated from entos, used only twice in the New Testament. Its primary meaning is “inside,” as it is rendered in Matthew 23:26: “Blind Pharisee, first cleanse the inside of the cup and dish, that the outside of them may be clean also.” However, when used in conjunction with a plural noun, entos means “among” or “in the…[Read more]

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Quote I dont think the Anti-Christ is a person.—pheonix.Nor do I think it is “a” person, as if it were one person who fulfills this role.Anti-Christ means “against” Christ. The Bible says there were “many” antichrist's, even in the apostles days.

Before this snowballs into a bash JW's thread, why not just move it to one of the many other threads designated for that.As well, regarding the earth and heaven, there are threads on each of these.

Quote Hi David,Does your prescribed set of doctrines prevent you from learning and even correcting your masters?I question everything and all things. It's what I am constantly doing. It's really all I do. Neither be called ‘leaders,’ for YOUR Leader is one, the Christ. –mat 23:10

Rebshaka, you said:Quote Regards David and Nick, and othersNick, I will leave the quoting of scripture mostly to you, for you do well on the behalf of the Holy Ones in this regard. AndQuote I come to this place seeking like minded personsNick says: I believe our future HOME is earth.I truth, he believes no one goes to heaven ever. I've had many…[Read more]

Quote I can tell by your thoughts that you were either RAISED or a JW or became one when very youngWrong again.Quote Hi DK,No David was brought up a catholic I believe.correct.

Hi rabsheka. Sorry, I missed your first page posts.I was, however baptised or “christened” as a baby by a COE priest.But that is one of the problems isn't it. Does receiving baptism from someone who you may later consider as possibly unrighteous count.Quote Nope. Nor does it “count” if you are a baby. Nor does sprinkling water on your head…[Read more]

As for parallelisms, I know they exist. Proverbs is filled with them. I'm not sure the verses in question are parallelisms. I believe the other scriptures I quoted (and many I didn't) bear this out.Quote Nick, I will leave the quoting of scripture mostly to you, for you do well on the behalf of the Holy Ones in this regard. But David, I do not…[Read more]

Quote It is the blood of Jesus which washes away our sins when we repent and consequently, we are holy, and so, I don't understand your statement saying that being a Christian doesn't necesarily mean you are a holy one.  Of course, if we say that we are a Christian, and we are not obeying the commandments of the Lord, we are not Christians but…[Read more]

Quote David …..why do you have to go outside scripture to prove Christmas or easter? what the difference.You said this and this and this and this were pagan. How do we know? By checking history. (Not all history is contained in the Bible.) Why do people celebrate Christmas on Dec 25th? History tells us that. The Bible does not. You are…[Read more]

SINNING–MISSING THE MARKThe common Hebrew term translated “sin” is chat·ta’th′; in Greek the usual word is ha·mar·ti′a. In both languages the verb forms (Heb., cha·ta’′; Gr., ha·mar·ta′no) mean “miss,” in the sense of missing or not reaching a goal, way, mark, or right point. At Judges 20:16 cha·ta’′ is used, with a negative, to describe the Benj…[Read more]

Quote Where does it say in the bible there is no trinity or that it is a pagan teaching, or for that mater where does it say in the bible that Christmas is a pagan practice, or for that matter Ester is pagan, so why do you believe they are ,A LITTLE RESEARCH OF HISTORY, GENE. Quote You ask me for bible proofNO GENE, I AM ASKING YOU FOR HISTORICAL…[Read more]

Quote David……Luk 17:20-21……does not dislodge anything DavidSo you do acknowledge the existence of the scriptures above in bold?Can you at least acknowledge them? Can you say they exist?

Taken from another website:”Christ was addressing these comments to the Pharisees, the religious leaders of the day. It is inconceivable that he would be telling these same Pharisees, who sought to kill him, that the Kingdom of God existed `within' them (Mark 3:6). He rebuked them because they “shut up the Kingdom of Heaven against men”. He said…[Read more]

Gene, not sure if you saw this post:-The King James Translator’s Notes on Luke 17:21 says:“within you: OR, AMONG YOU.” That's funny.  There's nothing left Gene.  You can no longer just keep saying: 'That's what it says' and ignoring the rest of scripture.  Because, what the translators say is that it says: “within you: or, among you.”BUT,…[Read more]

Quote Nick……..are you a nudest?Nick does not like to discuss his personal life. He won't answer this question. So don't assume that just because he doesn't answer this that he is indeed a nudist. Statistically speaking, he probably isn't.